Phony shoulder stock?

Don M · 07-06-2006, 12:15 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...6687%26fvi%3D1

I know next to nothing about Luger shoulder stocks but this eBay offering looks like a $3 bill. It is purported to be police unit marked (Schupo of Aachen). Several things appear wrong:

1. The Ã¢??policeÃ¢?Â marking uses a capital N in the abbreviation for Aachen. Regulations specified a lower-case n. Coincidentally or not, the pistol with this marking was recently discussed on the LugerForum (http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...8976#post98976). The marking on the pistol is correct (S.An.336.).

2. I have never seen a Schupo-marked shoulder stock and seriously doubt that they had them. Even if their Lugers were originally LP08s, they were reworked to have shorter barrels before being issued to the police. With no LP08s, they would not need shoulder stocks and I doubt that the IMKK would have permitted them. I canÃ¢??t tell from the post whether the matching pistol may have originally been an LP08 but certainly by the time it was unit marked, it was a P08.

3. The stock looks too good. If it had been in police service, it would show much more wear.

I would appreciate comments from members who know these stocks better.

lew1 · 07-06-2006, 01:01 PM

Also, why is there a Wa marking on the stock???

Per the Ad "WA proof mark on top of metal"

George Anderson · 07-06-2006, 03:57 PM

The stock appears to be made of maple and is one of several versions of modern reproductions. The seller is either a fool or a charlatan, take your pick.

07-06-2006, 12:15 PM	#1
Don M Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 67 Thanked 292 Times in 191 Posts	Phony shoulder stock? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...6687%26fvi%3D1 I know next to nothing about Luger shoulder stocks but this eBay offering looks like a $3 bill. It is purported to be police unit marked (Schupo of Aachen). Several things appear wrong: 1. The Ã¢??policeÃ¢?Â marking uses a capital N in the abbreviation for Aachen. Regulations specified a lower-case n. Coincidentally or not, the pistol with this marking was recently discussed on the LugerForum (http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...8976#post98976). The marking on the pistol is correct (S.An.336.). 2. I have never seen a Schupo-marked shoulder stock and seriously doubt that they had them. Even if their Lugers were originally LP08s, they were reworked to have shorter barrels before being issued to the police. With no LP08s, they would not need shoulder stocks and I doubt that the IMKK would have permitted them. I canÃ¢??t tell from the post whether the matching pistol may have originally been an LP08 but certainly by the time it was unit marked, it was a P08. 3. The stock looks too good. If it had been in police service, it would show much more wear. I would appreciate comments from members who know these stocks better. __________________ Regards, Don [email protected] Author of History Writ in Steel: German Police Markings 1900-1936 http://www.historywritinsteel.com

07-06-2006, 01:01 PM	#2
lew1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,108 Thanks: 82 Thanked 204 Times in 112 Posts	Also, why is there a Wa marking on the stock??? Per the Ad "WA proof mark on top of metal" __________________ charlie

07-06-2006, 03:57 PM	#3
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,529 Times in 787 Posts	The stock appears to be made of maple and is one of several versions of modern reproductions. The seller is either a fool or a charlatan, take your pick.