poor poor arty

beetledude · 04-02-2010, 09:39 PM

stumbled on this while looking at an auction site. man oh man, what a shame!

rolandtg · 04-03-2010, 12:00 AM

Well that's certainly different...

sheepherder · 04-03-2010, 07:46 AM

I wonder why he removed the front sight...It's not like it's in the way of anything...

Putting the mount on the unmovable frame is a nice touch...I'm not really keen on having the rear lens right where gas and brass are flying around...and the workmanship is about on a level with a 12 year old...but I'd agree, it is different...

sheepherder · 04-03-2010, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beetledude

stumbled on this while looking at an auction site.

dude - is it for sale???

beetledude · 04-03-2010, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by postino

dude - is it for sale???

it sold for $558... at least somebody got a good parts gun perhaps.

http://www.gregmartinauctions.com/au...px?LotID=33010

sheepherder · 04-03-2010, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by beetledude

it sold for $558... at least somebody got a good parts gun perhaps.

I was going to say that sounds like an good buy for one of us who only want an arty, whether matching or not, and condition not terribly important (leveraged against price)...until I read *all* the description...

Description: Serial no. 4768, 9mm cal., 8" barrel, "Erfurt" and crown motif on toggle link, left side of barrel with "Bohler" marking, blued finish, checkered walnut grips. With M8-2x Leupold scope on mount screwed to frame.

Condition: Fair to good, as refinished. Gray patina with pitting. Grips are worn. Missing front sight. Bore is bright. Scope is fine. Attachment is mount of amateur quality.

Erfurt toggle is a plus (to me); Bohler barrel means it's *not* an arty...no arty sight...and after a close look at the rear toggle, I can make out the 4"bbl rear sight...

And the auction shows the other side, where the mount is again screwed to the frame rails...

(You have to wonder what size screws this dude used...and what pitch...not much meat on those rails...)

Now if it was me that won it (and yes, I would have bid), I do have a 4" bbl to put on it, and I have screws that would plug the holes after I threw that mount away...and that scope (if still intact) would have gone on an AR-15 of mine...so for $558, I would have called it a good deal...

I'm pretty sure it went to someone who has the skills to put it right...(just not me!)...

One question - the auction has a note - "*Price includes BP"...what's BP???

Rbrooks45 · 04-03-2010, 11:01 AM

I wander if he number'd the scews so they would match

Ron Smith · 04-03-2010, 11:05 AM

It absolutely wonderous what can be done with a hand drill and some sheet metal screws. When two will work, five is better. Personally, I prefer duct tape.

alanint · 04-03-2010, 04:27 PM

I wonder how long that scope stays in alignment considering the Luger ejects almost straight up.

saab-bob · 04-03-2010, 06:44 PM

Postino

BP means buyers premium. Its what the auction house charges the winning bidder. I think Greg Martin is 15 to 17%
Bob

Vlim · 04-03-2010, 07:15 PM

Bolt a jet to it, and it will fly as well....

DavidJayUden · 04-03-2010, 07:33 PM

Look at the bright side: the gene pool has been cleaned and makes the good stuff worth more...
dju

tomaustin · 04-03-2010, 11:40 PM

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alvin · 04-06-2010, 07:16 AM

Astonished. Even this one comes with "buyer's premium"?! It's obviously not a premium piece. Tons of people modify guns for fun. Probably less than 1% of those modification is creative and interesting. 99%+ are more or less like this one, ugly and boring.

[Edit] If modifier is a fan of karaoke, I won't feel surprised.

alanint · 04-06-2010, 07:44 AM

A closer look indicates it is not an Arty. I see a hint of a back sight blade on the rear of the toggle and there is no typical swelling of the barrel diameter where the back sight should be on the barrel.
Just a long rebarreled junker?

04-02-2010, 09:39 PM	#1
beetledude User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 20 Thanks: 1 Thanked 18 Times in 3 Posts	poor poor arty stumbled on this while looking at an auction site. man oh man, what a shame!

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Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	It absolutely wonderous what can be done with a hand drill and some sheet metal screws. When two will work, five is better. Personally, I prefer duct tape. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

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saab-bob User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 459 Thanks: 774 Thanked 143 Times in 87 Posts	Postino BP means buyers premium. Its what the auction house charges the winning bidder. I think Greg Martin is 15 to 17% Bob __________________ "I think,therefore I own guns"

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tomaustin Lifer X5 Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: texas Posts: 708 Thanks: 87 Thanked 522 Times in 201 Posts	it don't look too well thought out............ ..

04-06-2010, 07:44 AM	#15
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	A closer look indicates it is not an Arty. I see a hint of a back sight blade on the rear of the toggle and there is no typical swelling of the barrel diameter where the back sight should be on the barrel. Just a long rebarreled junker? Last edited by alanint; 04-06-2010 at 12:03 PM.

04-03-2010, 12:00 AM	#2
rolandtg User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 477 Thanks: 380 Thanked 258 Times in 113 Posts	Well that's certainly different...

04-03-2010, 07:46 AM	#3
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,183 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts	I wonder why he removed the front sight...It's not like it's in the way of anything... Putting the mount on the unmovable frame is a nice touch...I'm not really keen on having the rear lens right where gas and brass are flying around...and the workmanship is about on a level with a 12 year old...but I'd agree, it is different...

04-03-2010, 11:01 AM	#7
Rbrooks45 User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 66 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I wander if he number'd the scews so they would match

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alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	I wonder how long that scope stays in alignment considering the Luger ejects almost straight up.

04-03-2010, 07:15 PM	#11
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	Bolt a jet to it, and it will fly as well....

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DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Look at the bright side: the gene pool has been cleaned and makes the good stuff worth more... dju

04-06-2010, 07:16 AM	#14
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Astonished. Even this one comes with "buyer's premium"?! It's obviously not a premium piece. Tons of people modify guns for fun. Probably less than 1% of those modification is creative and interesting. 99%+ are more or less like this one, ugly and boring. [Edit] If modifier is a fan of karaoke, I won't feel surprised.