DWM 1908 Commercial

Classic Captain · 01-13-2013, 11:11 PM

What do you guys know about DWM 1908 Commercial , tapered barrel 4 3/4" , no stock lug , no grip safety, standard fixed sights. Late flat checkering on toggle knobs. . 30 luger.?

Dwight Gruber · 01-14-2013, 02:48 AM

What is the complete serial number, what proof marks are on it, is it stammped GERMANY? Got any pictures?

--Dwight

DavidJayUden · 01-14-2013, 02:49 AM

The barrel length is suspect, but to get specific we need photos.

Classic Captain · 01-14-2013, 08:39 AM

I will work on that.

Classic Captain · 01-21-2013, 10:27 AM

Okay the serial number is # 65320
I will have pictures shortly

Classic Captain · 01-23-2013, 10:25 AM

Pictures

Classic Captain · 01-23-2013, 10:27 AM

Picture

Classic Captain · 01-23-2013, 10:30 AM

Pic 3

Classic Captain · 01-23-2013, 10:31 AM

Picture4

Classic Captain · 01-23-2013, 10:57 AM

Maybe that's helps.

Lugerdoc · 01-23-2013, 12:46 PM

Per our phoncon this morning: You do have the short M1908 type frame (no provision for a grip safety spring), but difficult to tell if it was was altered since it appears to have a plug pinned into the bottom of the recoil spring area, which is not normal and may have been added if the grip safety inlet was removed from a M1906 frame. The serial number could be correct for either type frame. I doubt that DWM would have done it this way. Even though your barrel is matching to the frame, the 7.65x120mm barrel is VERY unusual on a true M1908. Your barrel appear very dark blue and high polished (it could just be the lighting) but may have been refinished. THis would be a very unique example, if FACTORY original. TH

Classic Captain · 01-23-2013, 01:00 PM

Picture

Dwight Gruber · 01-23-2013, 04:50 PM

The frame is definitely a P08 frame. The left rear frame grip is cut slightly higher than a non-grip safety Luger, to make room for the grip safety. When replacing the grip panel with a P08 grip, a gap is left between the frame and the profile of the grip.

You can see in the left illustration thte gap left behind the grip of a 1906 with grip safety removed, versus the P08 in this thread which is relieved lower and the grip fits properly.

I have concerns about the c/N on the barrel, could you post a sharp, tight closeup of it?

--Dwight

Classic Captain · 01-23-2013, 05:08 PM

Close up

Classic Captain · 01-23-2013, 05:10 PM

Close up

Classic Captain · 01-23-2013, 04:59 PM

Yes I will do that as well as some inside shots

Classic Captain · 01-23-2013, 05:32 PM

Using IPad camera, I will try.

Dwight Gruber · 01-23-2013, 06:01 PM

If you can find a friend with a closeup lens on a camera it would be very helpful. We need to see fine enough detail to determine if the c/N is stamped, engraved, or pantographed.

--Dwight

Classic Captain · 01-23-2013, 08:49 PM

See if any better

Classic Captain · 01-23-2013, 08:54 PM

So apparently it does have hold open latch , spring it flattened.

01-13-2013, 11:11 PM	#1
Classic Captain User Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 56 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	DWM 1908 Commercial What do you guys know about DWM 1908 Commercial , tapered barrel 4 3/4" , no stock lug , no grip safety, standard fixed sights. Late flat checkering on toggle knobs. . 30 luger.?

01-23-2013, 10:25 AM	#6
Classic Captain User Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 56 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Pictures Pictures Attached Thumbnails

01-23-2013, 10:27 AM	#7
Classic Captain User Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 56 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Picture Picture Attached Thumbnails

01-23-2013, 10:30 AM	#8
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01-23-2013, 10:31 AM	#9
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01-14-2013, 02:48 AM	#2
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	What is the complete serial number, what proof marks are on it, is it stammped GERMANY? Got any pictures? --Dwight

01-14-2013, 02:49 AM	#3
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	The barrel length is suspect, but to get specific we need photos.

01-14-2013, 08:39 AM	#4
Classic Captain User Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 56 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I will work on that.

01-21-2013, 10:27 AM	#5
Classic Captain User Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 56 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Okay the serial number is # 65320 I will have pictures shortly

01-23-2013, 10:57 AM	#10
Classic Captain User Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 56 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Maybe that's helps.

01-23-2013, 12:46 PM	#11
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Per our phoncon this morning: You do have the short M1908 type frame (no provision for a grip safety spring), but difficult to tell if it was was altered since it appears to have a plug pinned into the bottom of the recoil spring area, which is not normal and may have been added if the grip safety inlet was removed from a M1906 frame. The serial number could be correct for either type frame. I doubt that DWM would have done it this way. Even though your barrel is matching to the frame, the 7.65x120mm barrel is VERY unusual on a true M1908. Your barrel appear very dark blue and high polished (it could just be the lighting) but may have been refinished. THis would be a very unique example, if FACTORY original. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 [email protected]

01-23-2013, 01:00 PM	#12
Classic Captain User Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 56 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Another Picture Attached Thumbnails

01-23-2013, 04:50 PM	#13
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	The frame is definitely a P08 frame. The left rear frame grip is cut slightly higher than a non-grip safety Luger, to make room for the grip safety. When replacing the grip panel with a P08 grip, a gap is left between the frame and the profile of the grip. You can see in the left illustration thte gap left behind the grip of a 1906 with grip safety removed, versus the P08 in this thread which is relieved lower and the grip fits properly. I have concerns about the c/N on the barrel, could you post a sharp, tight closeup of it? --Dwight Attached Images

01-23-2013, 05:08 PM	#14
Classic Captain User Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 56 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Barrel crown N Close up Attached Thumbnails

01-23-2013, 05:10 PM	#15
Classic Captain User Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 56 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hand grip area you addressed Close up Attached Thumbnails

01-23-2013, 04:59 PM	#16
Classic Captain User Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 56 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes I will do that as well as some inside shots

01-23-2013, 05:32 PM	#17
Classic Captain User Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 56 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Using IPad camera, I will try.

01-23-2013, 06:01 PM	#18
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	If you can find a friend with a closeup lens on a camera it would be very helpful. We need to see fine enough detail to determine if the c/N is stamped, engraved, or pantographed. --Dwight

01-23-2013, 08:49 PM	#19
Classic Captain User Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 56 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Try this See if any better Attached Thumbnails

01-23-2013, 08:54 PM	#20
Classic Captain User Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 56 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	So apparently it does have hold open latch , spring it flattened.