Fake Police Holster?

suum cuique · 10-03-2013, 06:25 AM

Hi,

your opinion please.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Pistolentasch...item4d131fca01

alanint · 10-03-2013, 07:25 AM

From the photos, it looks rightous to me. The stitching is clean and the maker has not turned up on fakes, to my knowledge. The brown leather used in the tongue and keeper I have never seen on a fake.

Leather is also hard to age, without it being noticeably altered. This lether looks properly aged. The look of the leather is typical of leather soaked in an improper preservative over time.

My one concern is the tool pouch, which are usually radiused nicer with a crisper edge to the leather.

Edward Tinker · 10-03-2013, 09:26 AM

after shipping and switching from euro, it will cost pretty penny.

Sergio Natali · 10-03-2013, 10:32 AM

I'm not an expert on holsters, but I'm sure the one I had was very very similar, unfortunately I sold it two years ago.

tharpo · 10-03-2013, 01:24 PM

The pattern of the stitching on the back makes me think reproduction.

lugerholsterrepair · 10-03-2013, 05:25 PM

Andy, This holster is as fake as xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx . Stay away. Bad joo joo.

alanint · 10-03-2013, 10:55 PM

Jerry, help us out with some call-outs.

It will help the rest of us in spotting issues down thew road.

SteveM · 10-04-2013, 09:18 AM

It is a fake for sure, look at the stitching of the left belt loop and pull strap on the back. Those should blend together and appear to be one continuous run of stitching(they are stitched separately as Jerry corrected me on this in the past.) I haven't seen any repros that have gotten this right yet. Stitching issues all over the place.

lugerholsterrepair · 10-04-2013, 01:02 PM

I haven't seen any repros that have gotten this right yet. Steve..be careful out there! I have seen this very obvious fault corrected on reproduction holsters recently. One has to look over the whole holster...

Doug..I wish I had time to dissect this one but I am packing up for my migration to Yuma AZ. It's cold, I got a fire in the wood stove and stuff laying everywhere! It's a bad one though..meant to deceive. Another Luger University tuition payment coming up for someone!

SteveM · 10-04-2013, 01:26 PM

[QUOTE=lugerholsterrepair;241635] Steve..be careful out there! I have seen this very obvious fault corrected on reproduction holsters recently. One has to look over the whole holster.../QUOTE]

Haven't seen one yet but yes, I do look over the whole shebang.

Thanks

suum cuique · 10-06-2013, 06:43 AM

Thank you all for your comments!

cirelaw · 10-06-2013, 12:02 PM

Simpson has a luger police holster! http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_in...oducts_id=4432 Legacy has a real beauty~~~http://www.legacy-collectibles.com/a...-luger-holster

Ben M. · 10-06-2013, 12:54 PM

on ebay looks nice and price is low if not too many guys bid.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-Original...item2ecab51d8a

suum cuique · 10-15-2013, 04:28 PM

Hi
an other holster with the exactly same markings from an other seller.
Very strange...

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Pistolentasch...31033332225%26

klaus 3338 · 10-16-2013, 02:14 AM

Police holsters do not have the P08 stamp on the backside, they have Police acceptance marks and not military. The stitching of the inner liner are wrong as the tool pouch, too. Look at the stiches on the back side of leather to pull the Luger out of the holster: I have never seen it in this way. As Jerry wrote... a poor fake.

10-03-2013, 06:25 AM	#1
suum cuique User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD / Currently about 9000 klicks east of the Potomac Posts: 497 Thanks: 100 Thanked 47 Times in 35 Posts	Fake Police Holster? Hi, your opinion please. http://www.ebay.de/itm/Pistolentasch...item4d131fca01 __________________ Regards, Andy There's No Place Like Home (Wizard Of Oz)

10-03-2013, 09:26 AM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	after shipping and switching from euro, it will cost pretty penny. __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

10-03-2013, 10:32 AM	#4
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	I'm not an expert on holsters, but I'm sure the one I had was very very similar, unfortunately I sold it two years ago. __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

10-03-2013, 05:25 PM	#6
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Andy, This holster is as fake as xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx . Stay away. Bad joo joo. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

10-04-2013, 01:02 PM	#9
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	I haven't seen any repros that have gotten this right yet. Steve..be careful out there! I have seen this very obvious fault corrected on reproduction holsters recently. One has to look over the whole holster... Doug..I wish I had time to dissect this one but I am packing up for my migration to Yuma AZ. It's cold, I got a fire in the wood stove and stuff laying everywhere! It's a bad one though..meant to deceive. Another Luger University tuition payment coming up for someone! __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

10-03-2013, 07:25 AM	#2
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	From the photos, it looks rightous to me. The stitching is clean and the maker has not turned up on fakes, to my knowledge. The brown leather used in the tongue and keeper I have never seen on a fake. Leather is also hard to age, without it being noticeably altered. This lether looks properly aged. The look of the leather is typical of leather soaked in an improper preservative over time. My one concern is the tool pouch, which are usually radiused nicer with a crisper edge to the leather.

10-03-2013, 01:24 PM	#5
tharpo Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West Coast, USA Posts: 543 Thanks: 116 Thanked 382 Times in 157 Posts	The pattern of the stitching on the back makes me think reproduction.

10-03-2013, 10:55 PM	#7
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Jerry, help us out with some call-outs. It will help the rest of us in spotting issues down thew road.

10-04-2013, 09:18 AM	#8
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	It is a fake for sure, look at the stitching of the left belt loop and pull strap on the back. Those should blend together and appear to be one continuous run of stitching(they are stitched separately as Jerry corrected me on this in the past.) I haven't seen any repros that have gotten this right yet. Stitching issues all over the place.

10-04-2013, 01:26 PM	#10
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	[QUOTE=lugerholsterrepair;241635] Steve..be careful out there! I have seen this very obvious fault corrected on reproduction holsters recently. One has to look over the whole holster.../QUOTE] Haven't seen one yet but yes, I do look over the whole shebang. Thanks

10-06-2013, 06:43 AM	#11
suum cuique User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD / Currently about 9000 klicks east of the Potomac Posts: 497 Thanks: 100 Thanked 47 Times in 35 Posts	Thank you all for your comments! __________________ Regards, Andy There's No Place Like Home (Wizard Of Oz)

10-06-2013, 12:02 PM	#12
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Simpson has a luger police holster! http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_in...oducts_id=4432 Legacy has a real beauty~~~http://www.legacy-collectibles.com/a...-luger-holster

10-06-2013, 12:54 PM	#13
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 488 Thanks: 90 Thanked 123 Times in 83 Posts	on ebay looks nice and price is low if not too many guys bid. http://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-Original...item2ecab51d8a

10-15-2013, 04:28 PM	#14
suum cuique User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD / Currently about 9000 klicks east of the Potomac Posts: 497 Thanks: 100 Thanked 47 Times in 35 Posts	Hi an other holster with the exactly same markings from an other seller. Very strange... http://www.ebay.de/itm/Pistolentasch...31033332225%26 __________________ Regards, Andy There's No Place Like Home (Wizard Of Oz)

10-16-2013, 02:14 AM	#15
klaus 3338 User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 517 Thanks: 0 Thanked 411 Times in 160 Posts	Police holsters do not have the P08 stamp on the backside, they have Police acceptance marks and not military. The stitching of the inner liner are wrong as the tool pouch, too. Look at the stiches on the back side of leather to pull the Luger out of the holster: I have never seen it in this way. As Jerry wrote... a poor fake.