What's the deal with these grips?

Zorba · 11-19-2013, 03:22 PM

Smooth grips. Are these for real?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Luger-Grips-...item484cc810fd

John Sabato · 11-19-2013, 03:33 PM

If the grips are proofed, and presumed to be "original" then someone just sanded off the checkering after manufacture... they are no where near worth the money being asked...

they wouldn't be worth $25.00 to me... including shipping!

The seller deals in a lot of Luger items...and has not fared well for a reputation for authenticity among forum members. Caveat Emptor.

Just my $0.02

Zorba · 11-19-2013, 03:40 PM

Not planning on buying them, way overpriced for my blood for ANY reason. But I do like their looks...

Ben M. · 11-19-2013, 05:52 PM

that eagle/655 looks wrong. nothing like that stampings i have seen before.

Edward Tinker · 11-19-2013, 06:17 PM

I like weird grips, have a set of metal ones (not very pretty), these in the picture are a fake Ivory but much nicer than normal, have a checked set and non (on 6 inch luger shown), then I like antler and even some bone grips. Had some smooth grips at one time, must have sold them?

Sonofeugene · 11-19-2013, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

I like weird grips,.....

Did you see the ones in the pix of my Dad's Luger I posted a while back?

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=31410

GySgt1811 · 11-19-2013, 10:04 PM

http://www.mactecsales.com/MA051_p/ma051.htm

Regards,

Gunny John

wlyon · 11-19-2013, 06:48 PM

Zormpas
If you want some smooth grips, buy a cheap set of reproductions and sand the checkering off. The ones you show are bad at a ridiculous price. Bill

Zorba · 11-19-2013, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wlyon

Zormpas
If you want some smooth grips, buy a cheap set of reproductions and sand the checkering off. The ones you show are bad at a rediculous price. Bill

If I was after custom grips, I'd want something OTHER than Walnut to start with. Rosewood, Cherry, or maybe Bubinga. As it is, the grips that are on my pistol will stay there, a bit of stain helped them immeasurably.

gizmo · 11-19-2013, 07:35 PM

In this day of CNC repros, lots of inexpensive grips on offer in the real world from about $20 to $100, the major differences I have seen with respect to quality of fit, finish and detailing, such as checkering ...mostly having no rhyme or reason to do with the pricing!

There is one notable reputable exception, however... spot on reliable in every way, including a satisfaction guarantee.

In my opinion (and that of others, no doubt) , the firm of Nil Grips, represents the Gold Standard for repro or "replacements."

Nil has some dealers representing him in the US (see Ebay Stores) or you can purchase them for the same price directly from Nil via the internet.

I personally own a pair of highly figured (albeit not garish) walnut grips from Nil Grips, uncheckered, that cost $100 plus a few pennies. Fit and finish are outstanding with cross-sectional profile very accurate by feel and direct measurement when compared to as new originals, which is another thing to bear in mind when considering a set of grips that have been already altered by sanding the checkering off, irrespective of price, originality or the obvious repair evident on this pair.

alanint · 11-19-2013, 10:55 PM

Numrich Arms, (gun parts corporation) sold a series of reproduction waffenamt and US Ordnance stamps some years ago. They were roundly criticized and eventually discontinued them, but not before hundreds of "proofed" German stocks and Garand and M1 Carbine stocks magically appeared for sale in the marketplace. They have muddled the collector's market ever since.
This looks like one of these stamps.

kubel · 11-19-2013, 11:06 PM

Nowhere in the ad does it say "original", although he's obviously implying they're original by highlighting the fact they're Waffenamt.

Sergio Natali · 11-20-2013, 03:58 AM

John is right,

"Caveat Emptor", especially on e-bey you find all sorts of things!

11-19-2013, 03:22 PM	#1
Zorba User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Merritt Island, Fl Posts: 952 Thanks: 777 Thanked 527 Times in 290 Posts	What's the deal with these grips? Smooth grips. Are these for real? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Luger-Grips-...item484cc810fd

11-19-2013, 03:33 PM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	If the grips are proofed, and presumed to be "original" then someone just sanded off the checkering after manufacture... they are no where near worth the money being asked... they wouldn't be worth $25.00 to me... including shipping! The seller deals in a lot of Luger items...and has not fared well for a reputation for authenticity among forum members. Caveat Emptor. Just my $0.02 __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

11-19-2013, 06:17 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	I like weird grips, have a set of metal ones (not very pretty), these in the picture are a fake Ivory but much nicer than normal, have a checked set and non (on 6 inch luger shown), then I like antler and even some bone grips. Had some smooth grips at one time, must have sold them? Attached Thumbnails __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-19-2013, 10:04 PM	#7
GySgt1811 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 237 Thanks: 1,238 Thanked 126 Times in 84 Posts	Try these http://www.mactecsales.com/MA051_p/ma051.htm Regards, Gunny John

11-19-2013, 06:48 PM	#8
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,637 Thanks: 3,174 Thanked 2,561 Times in 956 Posts	Zormpas If you want some smooth grips, buy a cheap set of reproductions and sand the checkering off. The ones you show are bad at a ridiculous price. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

11-19-2013, 03:40 PM	#3
Zorba User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Merritt Island, Fl Posts: 952 Thanks: 777 Thanked 527 Times in 290 Posts	Not planning on buying them, way overpriced for my blood for ANY reason. But I do like their looks...

11-19-2013, 05:52 PM	#4
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 488 Thanks: 90 Thanked 123 Times in 83 Posts	that eagle/655 looks wrong. nothing like that stampings i have seen before.

11-19-2013, 07:35 PM	#10
gizmo User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Western Pennsylvania Posts: 27 Thanks: 6 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	What's the deal on these grips? In this day of CNC repros, lots of inexpensive grips on offer in the real world from about $20 to $100, the major differences I have seen with respect to quality of fit, finish and detailing, such as checkering ...mostly having no rhyme or reason to do with the pricing! There is one notable reputable exception, however... spot on reliable in every way, including a satisfaction guarantee. In my opinion (and that of others, no doubt) , the firm of Nil Grips, represents the Gold Standard for repro or "replacements." Nil has some dealers representing him in the US (see Ebay Stores) or you can purchase them for the same price directly from Nil via the internet. I personally own a pair of highly figured (albeit not garish) walnut grips from Nil Grips, uncheckered, that cost $100 plus a few pennies. Fit and finish are outstanding with cross-sectional profile very accurate by feel and direct measurement when compared to as new originals, which is another thing to bear in mind when considering a set of grips that have been already altered by sanding the checkering off, irrespective of price, originality or the obvious repair evident on this pair.

11-19-2013, 10:55 PM	#11
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Numrich Arms, (gun parts corporation) sold a series of reproduction waffenamt and US Ordnance stamps some years ago. They were roundly criticized and eventually discontinued them, but not before hundreds of "proofed" German stocks and Garand and M1 Carbine stocks magically appeared for sale in the marketplace. They have muddled the collector's market ever since. This looks like one of these stamps. Last edited by alanint; 11-20-2013 at 06:25 AM.

11-19-2013, 11:06 PM	#12
kubel User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 124 Thanks: 5 Thanked 32 Times in 20 Posts	Nowhere in the ad does it say "original", although he's obviously implying they're original by highlighting the fact they're Waffenamt.

11-20-2013, 03:58 AM	#13
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	John is right, "Caveat Emptor", especially on e-bey you find all sorts of things! __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.