Unusual Parabellums at Simpson Ltd.

Sammler · 01-31-2014, 05:33 PM

Simpson has listed two rare MAUSER Parabellum pistols: a Model Sport (heavy barrel target model) and a pre-production model.

These are worth a look.

Edward Tinker · 01-31-2014, 05:39 PM

are these Sturgess guns, I noticed they are listing ones that did not go up for auction. That is a heck of a collection...

Ben M. · 01-31-2014, 05:54 PM

found one but not the other you wrote of:
http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_in...d23f824ab1da07

SteveM · 01-31-2014, 06:47 PM

Here is the other one..

http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_in...d23f824ab1da07

Ben M. · 02-01-2014, 12:31 PM

that is a big price.

mauro · 02-02-2014, 01:23 PM

Both pistols are rare but the 11.00.1002 is really a great early pre-production model.
In our book we described the 10.00.1002 that is the equivalent in .30 Luger.
Cheers,
Mauro

Sammler · 02-02-2014, 10:30 PM

From looking at the photos on Simpson Ltd.`s website, it seems to me that pistol 11.00.1002 is a mix of Swiss 29 and new Mauser parts.

The frame, grip safety, grips, and assorted small parts look to me to be from the 06/29 Swiss Luger. The receiver, toggle assembly, and barrel appear to be of new Mauser manufacture.

The magazine with the number 7 is of later issue for a 7.65 Luger.

Any thoughts out there?

Vlim · 02-03-2014, 02:15 PM

Mauser initially produced a batch of parts based on the Swiss drawings, but they soon corrected their mistakes. These 'Swiss style' parts found their way into early (pre)production pistols and in some presentation models.

That said, the grips and grip safety on the Simpsons pistol are Swiss made indeed. Not something Mauser did.

mauro · 02-03-2014, 02:19 PM

Dear Sammler,
The early presentation models have been well analysed in our book and they all have a "special" configuration, result of internal tests to achieve the final design.
Most of them, in caliber 7,65 mm therefore with the sn starting with "10" have been donated to Mauser Management, the list of the receivers has been published in the book.
The presentation pistols in 9mm have been all produced using Mauser parts in October 1969, the 1002 has been sent to the Development Department for test on date 15th October 1969.
Cheers,
Mauro

01-31-2014, 05:33 PM	#1
Sammler User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Unusual Parabellums at Simpson Ltd. Simpson has listed two rare MAUSER Parabellum pistols: a Model Sport (heavy barrel target model) and a pre-production model. These are worth a look.

01-31-2014, 05:39 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	are these Sturgess guns, I noticed they are listing ones that did not go up for auction. That is a heck of a collection... __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

02-02-2014, 01:23 PM	#6
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 349 Times in 129 Posts	Both pistols are rare but the 11.00.1002 is really a great early pre-production model. In our book we described the 10.00.1002 that is the equivalent in .30 Luger. Cheers, Mauro __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

02-02-2014, 10:30 PM	#7
Sammler User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Mauser number 2 From looking at the photos on Simpson Ltd.`s website, it seems to me that pistol 11.00.1002 is a mix of Swiss 29 and new Mauser parts. The frame, grip safety, grips, and assorted small parts look to me to be from the 06/29 Swiss Luger. The receiver, toggle assembly, and barrel appear to be of new Mauser manufacture. The magazine with the number 7 is of later issue for a 7.65 Luger. Any thoughts out there?

02-03-2014, 02:19 PM	#9
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 349 Times in 129 Posts	Dear Sammler, The early presentation models have been well analysed in our book and they all have a "special" configuration, result of internal tests to achieve the final design. Most of them, in caliber 7,65 mm therefore with the sn starting with "10" have been donated to Mauser Management, the list of the receivers has been published in the book. The presentation pistols in 9mm have been all produced using Mauser parts in October 1969, the 1002 has been sent to the Development Department for test on date 15th October 1969. Cheers, Mauro __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

01-31-2014, 05:54 PM	#3
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 488 Thanks: 90 Thanked 123 Times in 83 Posts	found one but not the other you wrote of: http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_in...d23f824ab1da07

01-31-2014, 06:47 PM	#4
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Here is the other one.. http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_in...d23f824ab1da07

02-01-2014, 12:31 PM	#5
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 488 Thanks: 90 Thanked 123 Times in 83 Posts	that is a big price.

02-03-2014, 02:15 PM	#8
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	Mauser initially produced a batch of parts based on the Swiss drawings, but they soon corrected their mistakes. These 'Swiss style' parts found their way into early (pre)production pistols and in some presentation models. That said, the grips and grip safety on the Simpsons pistol are Swiss made indeed. Not something Mauser did.