LugerForum Discussion Forums my profile | register | faq | search
upload photo | donate | calendar

Go Back   LugerForum Discussion Forums > General Discussion Forums > Gun Show Announcements & Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 04-14-2014, 12:07 PM   #1
ithacaartist
Twice a Lifer
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
ithacaartist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY
Posts: 3,347
Thanks: 7,285
Thanked 2,579 Times in 1,366 Posts
Default Syracuse NY Gun Show

Happy Monday, everyone,

I attended the Syracuse Gun Show this weekend, approx. 800 tables in the Center of Progress Building at the NYS Fairgrounds.

Lots of interesting firearms (someone had a Lahti 20mm on display, like the one re-welded and restored to function on "Sons of Guns" last season), but here's the Luger report. I'll start posting today and keep adding until I get all pics up for ya.

These pics and info are all I have, but I might be able to answer a question or two. I definitely brought back more of this show's experience to share...



First Parabellum encountered was a Persian, asking $4700, which seemed reasonable.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	persian left 2.jpg
Views:	90
Size:	104.2 KB
ID:	41211  

Click image for larger version

Name:	persian right 2.jpg
Views:	98
Size:	106.2 KB
ID:	41212  

Click image for larger version

Name:	persian proofing 2.jpg
Views:	86
Size:	122.8 KB
ID:	41213  

__________________
"... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894
ithacaartist is offline   Reply With Quote
The following member says Thank You to ithacaartist for your post:
Unread 04-14-2014, 12:20 PM   #2
ithacaartist
Twice a Lifer
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
ithacaartist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY
Posts: 3,347
Thanks: 7,285
Thanked 2,579 Times in 1,366 Posts
Default byf 41 #9196 w/holster...

..priced $950

The grips, proofs, and numbers on this one have suffered, as has the holster, which has a lid and pull up strap repaired with rivets.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	byf 41 #9196 left 2.jpg
Views:	91
Size:	179.4 KB
ID:	41214  

Click image for larger version

Name:	byf 41 9196 right 2.jpg
Views:	74
Size:	229.3 KB
ID:	41215  

Click image for larger version

Name:	byf 41 #9196 proofs 2.jpg
Views:	75
Size:	87.6 KB
ID:	41216  

Click image for larger version

Name:	byf 41 #9196 holster 2.jpg
Views:	71
Size:	134.1 KB
ID:	41217  

__________________
"... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894
ithacaartist is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-14-2014, 01:37 PM   #3
sheepherder
Lifer
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
sheepherder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal...
Posts: 8,183
Thanks: 1,400
Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ithacaartist View Post
..priced $950

The grips, proofs, and numbers on this one have suffered...
As has the front sight...Is that a P-38 sight???

Thanks for the report! Feel free to add anything else about the Syracuse show...Food on site, fast food restaurants nearby, magazine [both kinds] vendors in attendance, parking availability & charges, special displays, who sponsored the event...You get the idea...

I want to go, but I have to factor in expenses...

How about parts vendors...I'm always looking for parts suppliers, particularly 'parts kits' from stripped handguns, or rifles...Military mostly, although I do get an occasional S&W that needs work...

Any show 'specials'???
__________________
I like my coffee the
way I like my women...
...Cold and bitter...
sheepherder is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-15-2014, 11:39 AM   #4
ithacaartist
Twice a Lifer
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
ithacaartist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY
Posts: 3,347
Thanks: 7,285
Thanked 2,579 Times in 1,366 Posts
Default

Quote:
...the front sight...Is that a P-38 sight???
Beats me..it's not original, for sure.

Quote:
...Food on site, fast food restaurants nearby, magazine [both kinds] vendors in attendance, parking availability & charges, special displays, who sponsored the event...
Show was put on by the New York State Arms Collectors Association, Inc. $6 bucks entry--$5 for us geezers, re-entry with hand stamp, so smokers rejoice. $15 for onsite NCIS check--required for all gun purchases.

A cafe serving dogs, burgers and cola was in one of the side rooms, a permanent installation with booths and tables.

Right on the NW end of Syracuse, so moments from just about any food prepared at any speed. If you like the Dinosaur Bar-B-Q, you're in luck!

I was disappointed that the 5-round commercial mags for the M1 Carbine are now $40 ea., more than double what a 15-rounder would set you back--but the latter are now banned in NYS, so we're stuck with 5 and 10 round mags. I estimate a handful of purveyors of old publications were there, along with vintage and historical book sellers.

Free parking on fairgrounds, the usual gamble looking for a close space. Had to dodge a few livestock trailers, as there was a bovine event of some sort in the next big building; also a craft fair somewhere there...

Not sure what a special display would be. I didn't notice anything in particular that would make the big news on NBC... AR-15 "Dealers Only" table? An author whose name I didn't take note of, signing his book? The Lahti 20mm seemed pretty special to me!

Quote:
How about parts vendors...I'm always looking for parts suppliers, particularly 'parts kits' from stripped handguns, or rifles...Military mostly
Any show 'specials'??? [/QUOTE]

Quite a few parts vendors, I noticed--the tables with sectioned off bins and containers of parts stripped from old guns. Mainly Military long guns, I'd say. Lots of old Winchesters... I passed on a beat up Erma La-22 offered at $495! Thompson Center Contender parts, a couple of its empty frames... I didn't notice any obvious kits for anything, but could have missed some.

To my limited gun show experience, a bit of everything for everybody was available. Extranea included the ubiquitous knife dealers, vintage and new metal sign sellers, hats and clothing, gun bluing/finishing, gun safes, militaria, Nazi collectibles, a couple tables with flea market grade stuff... Ammo prices coming down a bit, I think... 9mm FMJ $20/50

I'll do my best to answer any more questions. No comments from anyone about the Persian Artillery?
__________________
"... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894
ithacaartist is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-15-2014, 12:22 PM   #5
sheepherder
Lifer
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
sheepherder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal...
Posts: 8,183
Thanks: 1,400
Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ithacaartist View Post
Not sure what a special display would be.
Like someone displaying a collection but the items are not for sale. A 'show' used to be for collectors to display their collections. Somewhere/how it devolved into a flea market.
__________________
I like my coffee the
way I like my women...
...Cold and bitter...
sheepherder is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-15-2014, 02:56 PM   #6
ithacaartist
Twice a Lifer
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
ithacaartist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY
Posts: 3,347
Thanks: 7,285
Thanked 2,579 Times in 1,366 Posts
Default

[QUOTE=sheepherder;253316]Like someone displaying a collection but the items are not for sale. /QUOTE]

Ah, yes, I recall one such table, basically with half a dozen pistols under glass, all marked not for sale. (I can't for the life of me remember what they were, but the selection was diverse IIRC.) Closest to that were skimpily laden tables with old guys and maybe their wives...looked like they were more showing their collections than hawking merchandise. But, as you suspect, they were a distinct minority.
__________________
"... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894
ithacaartist is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-14-2014, 12:36 PM   #7
ithacaartist
Twice a Lifer
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
ithacaartist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY
Posts: 3,347
Thanks: 7,285
Thanked 2,579 Times in 1,366 Posts
Default 1913 DWM #3727a

Matching mag, $2800 asked.

Sorry about the last two pics where the table is in sharp focus, not the gun.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	1913 DWM #3727a left 2.jpg
Views:	81
Size:	162.8 KB
ID:	41218  

Click image for larger version

Name:	1913 DWM #3727a  right 2.jpg
Views:	87
Size:	171.4 KB
ID:	41219  

Click image for larger version

Name:	1913 DWM #3727a top 2.jpg
Views:	79
Size:	57.6 KB
ID:	41220  

Click image for larger version

Name:	1913 DWM #3727a mag 2.jpg
Views:	83
Size:	115.9 KB
ID:	41221  

__________________
"... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894
ithacaartist is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-14-2014, 12:59 PM   #8
ithacaartist
Twice a Lifer
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
ithacaartist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY
Posts: 3,347
Thanks: 7,285
Thanked 2,579 Times in 1,366 Posts
Default Three more pics...

1916 DMW, 1917? DMW, and a Stainless Luger. DMWs match except for Nazi era mags. SS Luger ($900) shown to finish--side plate in particular--buffed wavy!

More info, no pics:

1917 Erfurt w/matching grips, 1918 Erfurt matching x/mag, @ $1500.

1936 chamber/DWM toggle matching #8726n w/mag and #52 side plate $1845

'06 AE 54579 in 7.65 VERY pitted inside and out, flat black finish $800

1913 DWM#3356e matching x/mag, ?/grips $1249
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	1916 DWM #7562.jpg
Views:	86
Size:	154.2 KB
ID:	41222  

Click image for larger version

Name:	syracuse 019.jpg
Views:	75
Size:	172.3 KB
ID:	41223  

Click image for larger version

Name:	SS Luger.jpg
Views:	79
Size:	238.0 KB
ID:	41224  

__________________
"... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894
ithacaartist is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-14-2014, 01:47 PM   #9
alanint
User
 
alanint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Marco Island, Florida
Posts: 4,867
Thanks: 1,685
Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts
Default

As to the holster. This is a Norwegian conversion, which was once set up to be used with GI web gear, (see plugged holes behind the belt loops). As such, the rivet repair for the pullup strap is probably also period to this serve as well.

This is an accepted variation for some holster collectors.
alanint is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-22-2014, 04:36 PM   #10
ithacaartist
Twice a Lifer
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
ithacaartist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY
Posts: 3,347
Thanks: 7,285
Thanked 2,579 Times in 1,366 Posts
Default

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.s..._firearms.html
__________________
"... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894
ithacaartist is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:24 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2024, Lugerforum.com