First Luger, (1916 DWM) question on origin (mismatched parts)

DevilofFallujah · 06-13-2017, 08:18 PM

Hi Guys,
Recently picked up my first luger, a 1916 DWM. I am a long time m1911 and m9 user from my time in the service, but i recently got hooked on weapons of the Great War.

I wanted to reach out to the vets of the forum to see if they could tell me a little about the different parts of this mismatched luger. I was a little leery buying a mismatched luger because of the rumors of lugers did not leave room in the way of temperament for weather/dirt/thermal expansion, but let me tell you, I put a box of 50 rounds through her with no stoppages! Very impressive ... especially for a 101 year old mutt!

Also, any insight on the magazine and holster?

DevilofFallujah · 06-13-2017, 08:26 PM

Sorry for the upside down pictures! They were right-side up when i uploaded them.

DonVoigt · 06-13-2017, 09:01 PM

Welcome.
You have pretty much assessed your 1916 DWM- mismatched, but looks like it may consist of all DWM parts. The upper looks to match itself and you don't show numbers on the receiver- though it really makes no difference.

The main thing is that it functions well, and is pretty accurate judging by your pictures.
Appears you have a great shooter.

Congrats!

DevilofFallujah · 06-13-2017, 09:04 PM

Thanks Don. Is it safe to say the mag is WWII era? It has no markings except the 3 digit serial.

DonVoigt · 06-14-2017, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevilofFallujah

Thanks Don. Is it safe to say the mag is WWII era? It has no markings except the 3 digit serial.

I would say from 1925 or so to 1940 or so.

Thor · 06-15-2017, 01:04 PM

IF you shoot it much you might change out the firing pin from a WWI pin (non fluted) to a fluted one that tends to prevent damage to the breech block at the firing pin retainer notch in the event of pressure coming back into the breech from a pierced primer or overload. Luger Doc (his screen name here) has them and the switch over takes about a minute or two with only a small screw driver (many can do it with just your thumb) to take out the retainer, then the spring and pin follow. WWII pins are FLUTED and help a bunch. NICE shooting by the way.

DavidJayUden · 06-13-2017, 09:22 PM

Give us a couple more photos of the magazine. There were a lot of post-WW2 East German magazines, police magazines, and it may well be from a later, or earlier, period.

DevilofFallujah · 06-13-2017, 09:37 PM

Serial 477

Btw side plate is (83)66 and saftey lever is 39. If anyone need those to complete their pistol, let me know.

rhuff · 06-14-2017, 03:31 PM

It appears that you own a reliable functioning, mismatched "shooter" Luger. Many of us own them, and enjoy them at the range. One can shoot them all you want, and not worry about breaking a matched part. Enjoy, and welcome to the world of Lugers.

06-13-2017, 08:18 PM	#1
DevilofFallujah User Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 5 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	First Luger, (1916 DWM) question on origin (mismatched parts) Hi Guys, Recently picked up my first luger, a 1916 DWM. I am a long time m1911 and m9 user from my time in the service, but i recently got hooked on weapons of the Great War. I wanted to reach out to the vets of the forum to see if they could tell me a little about the different parts of this mismatched luger. I was a little leery buying a mismatched luger because of the rumors of lugers did not leave room in the way of temperament for weather/dirt/thermal expansion, but let me tell you, I put a box of 50 rounds through her with no stoppages! Very impressive ... especially for a 101 year old mutt! Also, any insight on the magazine and holster? Attached Thumbnails

06-13-2017, 09:01 PM	#3
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	Welcome. You have pretty much assessed your 1916 DWM- mismatched, but looks like it may consist of all DWM parts. The upper looks to match itself and you don't show numbers on the receiver- though it really makes no difference. The main thing is that it functions well, and is pretty accurate judging by your pictures. Appears you have a great shooter. Congrats! __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

06-15-2017, 01:04 PM	#6
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	IF you shoot it much you might change out the firing pin from a WWI pin (non fluted) to a fluted one that tends to prevent damage to the breech block at the firing pin retainer notch in the event of pressure coming back into the breech from a pierced primer or overload. Luger Doc (his screen name here) has them and the switch over takes about a minute or two with only a small screw driver (many can do it with just your thumb) to take out the retainer, then the spring and pin follow. WWII pins are FLUTED and help a bunch. NICE shooting by the way. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email [email protected] ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

06-13-2017, 09:37 PM	#8
DevilofFallujah User Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 5 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Serial 477 Btw side plate is (83)66 and saftey lever is 39. If anyone need those to complete their pistol, let me know. Attached Thumbnails

06-13-2017, 08:26 PM	#2
DevilofFallujah User Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 5 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Sorry for the upside down pictures! They were right-side up when i uploaded them.

06-13-2017, 09:04 PM	#4
DevilofFallujah User Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 5 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Thanks Don. Is it safe to say the mag is WWII era? It has no markings except the 3 digit serial.

06-13-2017, 09:22 PM	#7
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Give us a couple more photos of the magazine. There were a lot of post-WW2 East German magazines, police magazines, and it may well be from a later, or earlier, period.

06-14-2017, 03:31 PM	#9
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,291 Thanks: 2,709 Thanked 972 Times in 717 Posts	It appears that you own a reliable functioning, mismatched "shooter" Luger. Many of us own them, and enjoy them at the range. One can shoot them all you want, and not worry about breaking a matched part. Enjoy, and welcome to the world of Lugers.