Repro "special" Luger grips- when and where made?

jagdwaffensammler · 04-28-2018, 12:52 PM

I have seen this grips from time to time- from the craftmansside they are well made and fit perfect. As far as i know they are found from time to time in the USA, this pair was found in the relief of an german gun collector two years ago, he was an collector since the early 1950s.

Anyone know who made them and from where they came?

PS. No doubt for me that they are "fake" !

Edward Tinker · 04-28-2018, 07:05 PM

no idea - but the P08 grip is much harder than say, a 1911 to make - I have made them for a 1911 several times, but the P08 seemed pretty daunting...

sheepherder · 04-28-2018, 07:50 PM

These almost look like stamped aluminum sheet...Or maybe cast...

Did you Photoshop out any Nazi markings/insignia when you posted it on your Deutschland site???

ithacaartist · 04-28-2018, 10:37 PM

My $ would be on stamped construction. These seem to fit in the same manner as VoPo grips, which are also hollow. They should be held secure by the grip screws and also locking in at the top. They don't depend on vertical ribs on the back, as we see on walnut grips.

Who edited the pic by blacking out the medallions? I don't believe we're shy here, and can put up with a swastika or two in proper context.

sheepherder · 04-28-2018, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ithacaartist

I don't believe we're shy here, and can put up with a swastika or two in proper context.

It's posted on a German site; swastikas are illegal there, as are any Nazi emblems, insignias, portraits of Nazi leaders, etc...

Even computer games like Return To Castle Wolfenstein are banned...The two 'hidden' levels of Doom2 are banned/edited for Nazi content...

Zorba · 04-29-2018, 12:37 PM

What's that black blob where the swastika is supposed to be?

ithacaartist · 04-30-2018, 02:17 AM

A better question might be why there were swastikas when they should have been black blobs?!

jagdwaffensammler · 04-30-2018, 04:19 AM

many thanks for this helpfull answers- i see real power of knowledge.

John Sabato · 04-30-2018, 11:07 AM

Anytime I see aluminum construction for grips, my first inclination is Mexican manufacture... at least in my experience... the only german produced grips I have seen made out sheet aluminum were P.38 grips... I don't remember if they were prototypes (cause they were running out of materials for plastic), or if they were limited quantity production grips.

These grips of course would have been post-WW2 commercially made.

alanint · 04-30-2018, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Sabato

Anytime I see aluminum construction for grips, my first inclination is Mexican manufacture... at least in my experience... the only german produced grips I have seen made out sheet aluminum were P.38 grips... I don't remember if they were prototypes (cause they were running out of materials for plastic), or if they were limited quantity production grips.

These grips of course would have been post-WW2 commercially made.

Very late war German "Grey Ghost" P38 pistols have the stamped aluminum grips and a phosphate finish. I agree with John that these types of grips are generally Mexican. I've seen hundreds of 1911 Grips made from pot metal all the way to silver with gold inlays.

04-28-2018, 12:52 PM	#1
jagdwaffensammler User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Repro "special" Luger grips- when and where made? I have seen this grips from time to time- from the craftmansside they are well made and fit perfect. As far as i know they are found from time to time in the USA, this pair was found in the relief of an german gun collector two years ago, he was an collector since the early 1950s. Anyone know who made them and from where they came? PS. No doubt for me that they are "fake" ! __________________ www.jagdwaffensammler.de

04-28-2018, 07:50 PM	#3
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,183 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts	These almost look like stamped aluminum sheet...Or maybe cast... Did you Photoshop out any Nazi markings/insignia when you posted it on your Deutschland site??? __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

04-28-2018, 10:37 PM	#4
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,347 Thanks: 7,285 Thanked 2,579 Times in 1,366 Posts	My $ would be on stamped construction. These seem to fit in the same manner as VoPo grips, which are also hollow. They should be held secure by the grip screws and also locking in at the top. They don't depend on vertical ribs on the back, as we see on walnut grips. Who edited the pic by blacking out the medallions? I don't believe we're shy here, and can put up with a swastika or two in proper context. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

04-30-2018, 02:17 AM	#7
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,347 Thanks: 7,285 Thanked 2,579 Times in 1,366 Posts	A better question might be why there were swastikas when they should have been black blobs?! __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

04-30-2018, 04:19 AM	#8
jagdwaffensammler User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	many thanks for this helpfull answers- i see real power of knowledge. __________________ www.jagdwaffensammler.de

04-28-2018, 07:05 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	no idea - but the P08 grip is much harder than say, a 1911 to make - I have made them for a 1911 several times, but the P08 seemed pretty daunting...

04-29-2018, 12:37 PM	#6
Zorba User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Merritt Island, Fl Posts: 952 Thanks: 777 Thanked 527 Times in 290 Posts	What's that black blob where the swastika is supposed to be?

04-30-2018, 11:07 AM	#9
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Anytime I see aluminum construction for grips, my first inclination is Mexican manufacture... at least in my experience... the only german produced grips I have seen made out sheet aluminum were P.38 grips... I don't remember if they were prototypes (cause they were running out of materials for plastic), or if they were limited quantity production grips. These grips of course would have been post-WW2 commercially made. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*