1921 DWM just acquired

JBBOOKS · 11-21-2019, 07:35 PM

Good Day All,
Just got a call from a friend who owns a local firearms shop. He deals mostly in hunting and archery but knows I like "old" guns. So here it is. Is this a Police issue? There are no unit or import marks. All parts match and the grips do not have the "million dollar chip". What can you tell me about the "ers." stamp on the second magazine, is it a Police unit mark? The holster is in good condition but the take down tool is missing. The story with the gun is that it is a WWII bring back but it does not have any paperwork to prove it. The pistol, two matching magazines, and a nice holster for $900. What do you guys and girls think?

Pistol · 11-21-2019, 07:40 PM

Can you post photos of the serial # under barrel and the frame?

JBBOOKS · 11-21-2019, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pistol

Can you post photos of the serial # under barrel and the frame?

The number under the barrel is the same as on the magazine without the "ers." Looks like under case e or l. Can't post pictures right now but will try in a few days.

HerrKaiser · 11-21-2019, 07:47 PM

No police as I don't see a sear or magazine safety. It still looks like you got an absolute steal of a rig at $900. Congrats!

Eugen · 11-21-2019, 08:26 PM

Non-police holster and non-police configured Luger. Why do you believe it's a police Luger? I also agree that you got a great deal. Two matching mags!! Somebody chime in here regarding that one mag's stamping. What's dat? Enjoy it.

JBBOOKS · 11-21-2019, 08:46 PM

I was thinking it was a Police issue because of the stamps on the right side and the stamp on the magazine.

DonVoigt · 11-21-2019, 11:46 PM

Great deal on a 1921 military luger.
I have no idea what the extra letters are on the one mag.

Proofed · 11-22-2019, 07:49 AM

Great deal on a nice pistol, I would have snatched it up myself. Congrats

Pistol · 11-22-2019, 09:56 AM

As Don says, it is a 1921 military. And as such is more desirable than a 1920 or 1921 police to some.

If the serial on the barrel and frame match the first mag, then it confirms you have a matching mag that looks to have been issued with the gun.

Font on the second mag seems similar, but its numbers are spaced out more. Seems like I read somewhere ERS was the abbreviation for Ersatz, meaning substitute or replacement. And this mag does have the plus sign. Maybe it was not issued with the pistol initially, but was later added as a replacement.

Overall a nice one, and for some reason you don't see the 1921's direct issue to military as often.

rhuff · 11-22-2019, 04:27 PM

Were I offered that rig for $900, it would already be resting in my safe. Looks to be an all original 1921 Luger with matching mags to me.

gunnertwo · 11-22-2019, 04:36 PM

Proves that "stuff" is still out there! Nice gun and rig.

G2

11-21-2019, 07:35 PM	#1
JBBOOKS User Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Central PA Posts: 35 Thanks: 68 Thanked 14 Times in 6 Posts	1921 DWM just acquired Good Day All, Just got a call from a friend who owns a local firearms shop. He deals mostly in hunting and archery but knows I like "old" guns. So here it is. Is this a Police issue? There are no unit or import marks. All parts match and the grips do not have the "million dollar chip". What can you tell me about the "ers." stamp on the second magazine, is it a Police unit mark? The holster is in good condition but the take down tool is missing. The story with the gun is that it is a WWII bring back but it does not have any paperwork to prove it. The pistol, two matching magazines, and a nice holster for $900. What do you guys and girls think? Attached Thumbnails

11-21-2019, 07:47 PM	#4
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 848 Thanks: 784 Thanked 861 Times in 411 Posts	No police as I don't see a sear or magazine safety. It still looks like you got an absolute steal of a rig at $900. Congrats! __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22

11-21-2019, 08:26 PM	#5
Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 790 Thanks: 394 Thanked 631 Times in 334 Posts	Non-police holster and non-police configured Luger. Why do you believe it's a police Luger? I also agree that you got a great deal. Two matching mags!! Somebody chime in here regarding that one mag's stamping. What's dat? Enjoy it. __________________ “God created war so that Americans would learn geography.” ― Mark Twain

11-21-2019, 08:46 PM	#6
JBBOOKS User Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Central PA Posts: 35 Thanks: 68 Thanked 14 Times in 6 Posts	Dwm 1921 I was thinking it was a Police issue because of the stamps on the right side and the stamp on the magazine.

11-21-2019, 11:46 PM	#7
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,442 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	Great deal on a 1921 military luger. I have no idea what the extra letters are on the one mag. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

11-21-2019, 07:40 PM	#2
Pistol User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TN Posts: 428 Thanks: 448 Thanked 220 Times in 99 Posts	Can you post photos of the serial # under barrel and the frame?

11-22-2019, 07:49 AM	#8
Proofed User Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Pa. Posts: 157 Thanks: 535 Thanked 338 Times in 90 Posts	Great deal on a nice pistol, I would have snatched it up myself. Congrats

11-22-2019, 09:56 AM	#9
Pistol User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TN Posts: 428 Thanks: 448 Thanked 220 Times in 99 Posts	As Don says, it is a 1921 military. And as such is more desirable than a 1920 or 1921 police to some. If the serial on the barrel and frame match the first mag, then it confirms you have a matching mag that looks to have been issued with the gun. Font on the second mag seems similar, but its numbers are spaced out more. Seems like I read somewhere ERS was the abbreviation for Ersatz, meaning substitute or replacement. And this mag does have the plus sign. Maybe it was not issued with the pistol initially, but was later added as a replacement. Overall a nice one, and for some reason you don't see the 1921's direct issue to military as often.

11-22-2019, 04:27 PM	#10
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,291 Thanks: 2,709 Thanked 972 Times in 717 Posts	Were I offered that rig for $900, it would already be resting in my safe. Looks to be an all original 1921 Luger with matching mags to me. __________________ Need DWM breechblock #21

11-22-2019, 04:36 PM	#11
gunnertwo User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nampa, Idaho Posts: 623 Thanks: 826 Thanked 930 Times in 363 Posts	Proves that "stuff" is still out there! Nice gun and rig. G2