Meet Georg Luger

Vlim · 05-08-2021, 03:25 PM

Embedding videos is not possible at the moment, but the link should be interesting.

https://youtube.com/shorts/xt6eoNjBNEs?feature=share

4 Scale · 05-08-2021, 11:12 PM

Thank you Vilm that video is breathtaking. How was it done? I am not questioning the accuracy of your post, rather I am attempting to verify that I actually saw the personage described.

Like many collectors I have wondered what it would like to meet Georg Luger. The video takes me as close as i will ever get to that imagined moment.

ithacaartist · 05-09-2021, 04:44 AM

Heh. Reminds me of some fun I had at one of my art exhibits... An Ithaca Journal reporter showed up to do her local human interest thing. I've forgotten even the gist of the interview, but remember how when it was done, she had me lie among the pieces I'd made as she snapped pics while standing above. Quite the shutterbug, she urged me to try different expressions. No problem, it was fun. One of those images was captioned in that week's "Leisure" insert. Georg seems to be having fun, too. I'll bet he was a hoot at a party.

mrerick · 05-09-2021, 12:12 PM

Looks like technology called "deep fake"...

You start with a still photograph of someone. Also feed it a video of someone else making a series of facial expressions and moves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUfJOQKdtAk

This one of Georg is pretty well done...

Looks like a service can generate these for you:

https://www.myheritage.com/deep-nostalgia

Vlim · 05-09-2021, 12:35 PM

Yes, this technology is maturing quickly.

It is possible now to have Georg Luger present his own lecture using nothing more than a donor presenter and a good photograph of him.

2020 marked the year that video footage became unreliable.
Everyone can generate decent quality deep fakes with the right, inexpensive tools soon.

ithacaartist · 05-09-2021, 08:23 PM

Silent film was well underway in the early 20th Century. We'd need some evidence one way or the other for whether this is period film with its frame rate adjusted, or a modern manipulation of a photo. If actual film footage was discovered at some point, one would think that someone on the Forum would know about it...and this is what bolsters the latter.

BTW, the motion picture industry has deep roots in Ithaca. And then, somebody figured out that the weather was better in California... http://www.ihstattler.com/blog/2016/...ollywood-east/

Vlim · 05-09-2021, 08:58 PM

Here is the photo that was used as the basis for the animation.

The free animation service of MyHeritage was then used to create the short animation in the link.

Vlim · 05-09-2021, 01:15 PM

Sez the forum software we currently use...

kurusu · 05-09-2021, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlim

Sez the forum software we currently use...

Yeah! I got awares of that.

And deleted my post.

05-08-2021, 03:25 PM	#1
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	Meet Georg Luger Embedding videos is not possible at the moment, but the link should be interesting. https://youtube.com/shorts/xt6eoNjBNEs?feature=share

05-09-2021, 04:44 AM	#3
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,347 Thanks: 7,285 Thanked 2,579 Times in 1,366 Posts	Heh. Reminds me of some fun I had at one of my art exhibits... An Ithaca Journal reporter showed up to do her local human interest thing. I've forgotten even the gist of the interview, but remember how when it was done, she had me lie among the pieces I'd made as she snapped pics while standing above. Quite the shutterbug, she urged me to try different expressions. No problem, it was fun. One of those images was captioned in that week's "Leisure" insert. Georg seems to be having fun, too. I'll bet he was a hoot at a party. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

05-09-2021, 12:12 PM	#4
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	Looks like technology called "deep fake"... You start with a still photograph of someone. Also feed it a video of someone else making a series of facial expressions and moves. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUfJOQKdtAk This one of Georg is pretty well done... Looks like a service can generate these for you: https://www.myheritage.com/deep-nostalgia __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

05-09-2021, 08:23 PM	#6
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,347 Thanks: 7,285 Thanked 2,579 Times in 1,366 Posts	Silent film was well underway in the early 20th Century. We'd need some evidence one way or the other for whether this is period film with its frame rate adjusted, or a modern manipulation of a photo. If actual film footage was discovered at some point, one would think that someone on the Forum would know about it...and this is what bolsters the latter. BTW, the motion picture industry has deep roots in Ithaca. And then, somebody figured out that the weather was better in California... http://www.ihstattler.com/blog/2016/...ollywood-east/ __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

05-09-2021, 08:58 PM	#7
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	Here is the photo that was used as the basis for the animation. The free animation service of MyHeritage was then used to create the short animation in the link. Attached Thumbnails

05-08-2021, 11:12 PM	#2
4 Scale User Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 544 Thanks: 194 Thanked 489 Times in 251 Posts	Thank you Vilm that video is breathtaking. How was it done? I am not questioning the accuracy of your post, rather I am attempting to verify that I actually saw the personage described. Like many collectors I have wondered what it would like to meet Georg Luger. The video takes me as close as i will ever get to that imagined moment.

05-09-2021, 12:35 PM	#5
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	Yes, this technology is maturing quickly. It is possible now to have Georg Luger present his own lecture using nothing more than a donor presenter and a good photograph of him. 2020 marked the year that video footage became unreliable. Everyone can generate decent quality deep fakes with the right, inexpensive tools soon.

05-09-2021, 01:15 PM	#8
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	Sez the forum software we currently use...