I am researching a DWM artillery model P08

Doc Mach · 06-07-2021, 11:59 AM

I purchased a DWM artillery model pistol which has an undated frame without Imperial proof stamps. All small parts have the same last 2 digits of the 4 digit serial number and the frame is also stamped GERMANY. It has the attach point on the grip frame for a shoulder stock. In some ways it appears to have commercial evidence yet in others it has definite military evidence. It does not appear to have been in battlefield conditions and the bluing on the barrel looks too good to be in the field. It also does not appear to have a "halo" around the barrel serial number. I think it might be a 1920 "rework" but would appreciate your review to help with it's provenance. Thank you.

George Anderson · 06-07-2021, 12:40 PM

Your photos don't help. May I suggest you show close-up clear photos of any proofs bot right and left side.

lugerholsterrepair · 06-07-2021, 01:23 PM

The rear sight is not an artillery but seems off of something else?

sdmark777 · 06-07-2021, 03:37 PM

Looks like an artillery rear to me with matching number, just like this one

lugerholsterrepair · 06-07-2021, 04:07 PM

Looks weird but you must be right!

spangy · 06-07-2021, 09:23 PM

gotta agree with sdmark777 on this one Jer .... It's just the angle and high aim setting throwing us off.

I mean we are looking directly down the mag cavity which means the barrel is at about 45 degrees to the horizon.

Anyway I love artillery's Don and yours is no exception.

Mac Cat · 06-08-2021, 10:11 AM

The pictures are not very useful - dark, fuzzy and out of focus.

I agree about the rear sight - it looks like the right one, but it is raised and the angle is deceiving.

But, over all, it looks like a decent long barrel commercial.

It's the suffix that I'm pondering. My best guess is a "t", but it's so strange looking.

spangy · 06-08-2021, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac Cat

It's the suffix that I'm pondering. My best guess is a "t", but it's so strange looking.

I agree Mac Cat ... looks like a definite 't' to me as well ... would love a full on pic of the barrel serial number to confirm the 't'.
It's interesting that the suffix appears to have a pronounced halo while the actual serial numbers have faint or non-existent halo's ... still love it though Don

06-07-2021, 11:59 AM	#1
Doc Mach New User Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I am researching a DWM artillery model P08 I purchased a DWM artillery model pistol which has an undated frame without Imperial proof stamps. All small parts have the same last 2 digits of the 4 digit serial number and the frame is also stamped GERMANY. It has the attach point on the grip frame for a shoulder stock. In some ways it appears to have commercial evidence yet in others it has definite military evidence. It does not appear to have been in battlefield conditions and the bluing on the barrel looks too good to be in the field. It also does not appear to have a "halo" around the barrel serial number. I think it might be a 1920 "rework" but would appreciate your review to help with it's provenance. Thank you. Attached Thumbnails

06-07-2021, 01:23 PM	#3
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	The rear sight is not an artillery but seems off of something else? __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

06-07-2021, 03:37 PM	#4
sdmark777 User Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 288 Thanks: 695 Thanked 672 Times in 174 Posts	Looks like an artillery rear to me with matching number, just like this one Attached Thumbnails Last edited by sdmark777; 06-07-2021 at 03:40 PM. Reason: add pic

06-07-2021, 04:07 PM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Looks weird but you must be right! __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

06-07-2021, 09:23 PM	#6
spangy Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 617 Thanks: 3,065 Thanked 1,057 Times in 429 Posts	gotta agree with sdmark777 on this one Jer .... It's just the angle and high aim setting throwing us off. I mean we are looking directly down the mag cavity which means the barrel is at about 45 degrees to the horizon. Anyway I love artillery's Don and yours is no exception. __________________ Whoever said that "money can't buy you happiness" never bought a Luger. WTB - Take Down Lever & Trigger Plate (#90) for an Imperial Artillery.

06-07-2021, 12:40 PM	#2
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,529 Times in 787 Posts	Your photos don't help. May I suggest you show close-up clear photos of any proofs bot right and left side.

06-08-2021, 10:11 AM	#7
Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 733 Thanks: 2,100 Thanked 610 Times in 329 Posts	The pictures are not very useful - dark, fuzzy and out of focus. I agree about the rear sight - it looks like the right one, but it is raised and the angle is deceiving. But, over all, it looks like a decent long barrel commercial. It's the suffix that I'm pondering. My best guess is a "t", but it's so strange looking.