Need assistance with Lanyard ID

[Ridecontrol]

This lanyard came out of a collectors estate quite some time ago. I just found it and wanted opinions as to what may be its origin. It measures about 40" long

I am not a serious luger collector so any help would be appreciated.

Ken in Ohio

[gunnertwo]

Jerry, "Lugerholsterrepair" will see this post. He should be able to ID the piece. You might PM with the images.

G2

[wlyon]

I would like to know also since I have one exactly like it. Bill

[lugerholsterrepair]

I have studied pistol lanyards for decades. The lanyard you show pops up fairly frequently. As best I can tell it is for a large loop revolver like the Reich revolver or similar. It has no separate swivel or attachment like the Luger lanyard. The diameter of the round leather is way too large to go into anything but a fairly large lanyard ring as it has to be looped inside itself to attach. Value? Sad to say it is likely minimal. I have a foot square box of these on a back shelf. I have never figured out a way to market them to make enough to warrant the effort and bother of selling them!
Ken sent me this photo earlier today and also a link to Simpson's. Someone there mistakenly believes it to be a Luger lanyard. They want $350 for theirs. Since there is no way to attach it to a Luger, I believe they are misinformed.

[spangy]

Clearly this lanyard would not fit a Luger's lanyard loop but would easily fit a Huskavarna Lahti M40's lanyard loop IMO.

[cirelaw]

Made Decades Ago!

[Ridecontrol]

Mystery Solved... Thanks to Spangy..

40" long.... Lahti M40

Thanks to all who reviewed

Ken

[lugerholsterrepair]

Ken, I don't know why you think the mystery is solved? You are saying just because a Lahti has a loop large enough to acomodate this round leather, all of the many lanyards of this nature were made specifically for Lahti's? That is fanciful thinking to be sure.

[spangy]

Here is a Lahti M40 lanyard available on Amazon. https://www.amazon.ca/gunpartscorp-S.../dp/B07F98MBDZ
Notice by the square cinching slider the same stitched design as in Ridecontrol's lanyard



A lanyard is a cord, length of webbing, or strap that may serve any of various functions, which include a means of attachment, restraint, retrieval, and activation and deactivation. There are all sorts of lanyards for all sorts of guns. They are interchangeable as long as the lanyard passes through the lanyard loop IMO. Can we say with 100% certainty that Ridecontrol's lanyard is a genuine Lahti M40 lanyard ?? Perhaps not ... but I would bet $$ on it just not a lot.

Jerry's point is well taken though ... just because the lanyard fits would not make it a genuine Lahti lanyard.
One must do research to verify its authenticity but in the meantime it works for me.

[Neil Young]

Just to expand the utility of the subject lanyard, it will also work with my Reishrevolver and my Model 1850 Prussian Cavalry Pistol. That lanyard is indeed flexible.

[lugerholsterrepair]

just because the lanyard fits would not make it a genuine Lahti lanyard.


My study of lanyards has always included period photo's of who might be wearing them, attached to what kind of pistols. I recently came across a magazine article with great photo;s of Austrians wearing lanyards. To be accurate, most of the photo's I come across are fairly well dressed fellows with thin dainty lanyards, what little can be seen of them in old photos.

I would think as many of the lanyards as there are from the OP that seem to exist, if they were for the Finnish Lahti , there would be some period photo's. Honestly I have never ventured out of my German bubble to explore Finnish period pics! Or Portuguese either although there is some thoughts that the swivel/woven end lanyard is Portuguese. I think there is some merit to that thought but my idea is that the Portuguese may have copied the German type or they were supplied to the Portuguese by the Germans along with German supplied Luger's . At any rate it seems both of these military's used the same lanyard?

It's odd that the German Mauser contract in 1943. Portuguese M43 holsters were especially designed and made by Portuguese saddlers and historically is typically associated with the lanyard . Seems very late for lanyard use but the Portuguese did things very differently than the Germans.
Anyway..a fascinating subject/discussion for me. More exploring to do. Thanks for everyone's input.


One last thought on the "Lahti" lanyard, it would fit the Lahti type! Robust and simple. And one would have to think, dropping your pistol in deep snow would not be good!

[Vlim]

Shown before, but this is the Portuguese version.
Not uncommon in Europe as they came with the Portuguese Lugers through Frankonia in the 80s.

The tan color of the attachments and loops matches those of the holsters and holster repairs as well.

[spangy]

A picture is worth 1000 words ya ?? How would you like to lug this baby around in the middle of a winter war ??



For the record here is another view of an M40 rig.



the brownish holster is an Air Force model and the black one is an Army model.

Shown in the middle of the photo is a loading tool.used like this.