In Re 1903 DANZIG TEST LUGER

cirelaw · 07-12-2013, 03:18 PM

I noticed this unique luger is listed on Bob Simpson site for $21,000. I'm unable to find out what this unique lugers all about! ~~~Eric http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_in...dd56f9e85ffb27

sheepherder · 07-12-2013, 04:00 PM

Toggle is unmarked (except for two scratches)...How do you tell this is a Danzig???

(Assuming there is such a thing as a Danzig)

cirelaw · 07-12-2013, 04:05 PM

Thats what its described in the site! I don't know anything about them. Thats why I posed the question!! Found another! http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie...id/56/lid/3494

sheepherder · 07-12-2013, 04:20 PM

I vaguely recall reading that the armory (?) at Danzig may have assembled some Lugers or maybe made parts...But how would anyone identify them??? Simpson's doesn't say...

I'm on the lookout for a nice Spandau Luger...With the Spandau toggle...

guns3545 · 07-12-2013, 04:52 PM

This is really Ron Wood's territory but these pistols were acquired from DWM and tested at the Danzig Arsenal and some are marked with a Crown D.

These pistols are in a defined serial number range and are roughly in the same range as the Dutch trials. They have blank toggles.

Still, Kenyon, and of course, Goertz and Sturgess discuss them.

Most are found in Fat Barrel 9mm having had their 7.65mm barrels switched out at the arsenal. Or so I believe.

Most, including mine, are in very used condition.

But experts can discuss further.

John

cirelaw · 07-12-2013, 05:04 PM

Another one at auction! http://www.liveauctionworld.com/Exce...uger_i13751121 They aren't cheap!

Ben M. · 07-12-2013, 05:51 PM

does the crown-d also appear on the back of the frame above the lanyard ring? i did a google search for danzig luger and there are some discussions by jan still which indicate this.

Ben M. · 07-12-2013, 05:54 PM

cirelaw,

your 2 postings from the 2 auctions are of the same pistol. look at the serial numbers.

cirelaw · 07-12-2013, 05:55 PM

I never noticed! I check them both. They are the same luger! I searched "danzig arsenal luger"!! Keep it in quotes first then without!

George Anderson · 07-12-2013, 08:02 PM

I have one. Ron Wood and I found it at the Reno show a few years ago. It was a walk-in and I bought it from the young citizen who brought it in to sell. On the example I have acceptance stamped on the rear of the frame, is a mixed parts pistol.

Jan C Still · 07-13-2013, 03:03 AM

See pages 22-26 of Central Powers Pistols for a description and photographs of several 1902 German Army Test Lugers.
These have no relationship to the Danzig Arsenal, except possible storage there!

See earlier post below.
http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...MY+TEST+LUGERS
Jan

07-12-2013, 03:18 PM	#1
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	In Re 1903 DANZIG TEST LUGER I noticed this unique luger is listed on Bob Simpson site for $21,000. I'm unable to find out what this unique lugers all about! ~~~Eric http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_in...dd56f9e85ffb27

07-12-2013, 04:00 PM	#2
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,183 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts	Toggle is unmarked (except for two scratches)...How do you tell this is a Danzig??? (Assuming there is such a thing as a Danzig) __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

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sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,183 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts	I vaguely recall reading that the armory (?) at Danzig may have assembled some Lugers or maybe made parts...But how would anyone identify them??? Simpson's doesn't say... I'm on the lookout for a nice Spandau Luger...With the Spandau toggle... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

07-13-2013, 03:03 AM	#11
Jan C Still User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Box 240188, Douglas, Alaska, 99824 Posts: 463 Thanks: 0 Thanked 52 Times in 32 Posts	See pages 22-26 of Central Powers Pistols for a description and photographs of several 1902 German Army Test Lugers. These have no relationship to the Danzig Arsenal, except possible storage there! See earlier post below. http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...MY+TEST+LUGERS Jan Last edited by Jan C Still; 07-13-2013 at 04:22 AM.

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cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Thats what its described in the site! I don't know anything about them. Thats why I posed the question!! Found another! http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie...id/56/lid/3494

07-12-2013, 04:52 PM	#5
guns3545 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 437 Thanks: 655 Thanked 492 Times in 218 Posts	This is really Ron Wood's territory but these pistols were acquired from DWM and tested at the Danzig Arsenal and some are marked with a Crown D. These pistols are in a defined serial number range and are roughly in the same range as the Dutch trials. They have blank toggles. Still, Kenyon, and of course, Goertz and Sturgess discuss them. Most are found in Fat Barrel 9mm having had their 7.65mm barrels switched out at the arsenal. Or so I believe. Most, including mine, are in very used condition. But experts can discuss further. John

07-12-2013, 05:04 PM	#6
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Another one at auction! http://www.liveauctionworld.com/Exce...uger_i13751121 They aren't cheap!

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Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 488 Thanks: 90 Thanked 123 Times in 83 Posts	does the crown-d also appear on the back of the frame above the lanyard ring? i did a google search for danzig luger and there are some discussions by jan still which indicate this.

07-12-2013, 05:54 PM	#8
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 488 Thanks: 90 Thanked 123 Times in 83 Posts	cirelaw, your 2 postings from the 2 auctions are of the same pistol. look at the serial numbers.

07-12-2013, 05:55 PM	#9
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I never noticed! I check them both. They are the same luger! I searched "danzig arsenal luger"!! Keep it in quotes first then without!

07-12-2013, 08:02 PM	#10
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,529 Times in 787 Posts	I have one. Ron Wood and I found it at the Reno show a few years ago. It was a walk-in and I bought it from the young citizen who brought it in to sell. On the example I have acceptance stamped on the rear of the frame, is a mixed parts pistol.