.45 Carbine (Reposted)

sidhartha · 04-29-2002, 02:22 PM

Could this be the other luger that was tested for the U.S. I have always read that the second one was PROBABLY destoyed. I have always had a problem with that idea. Being a gun enthusiust I hate to see any gun destoyed. Making these guns must have been a labor of love for Mr. Luger. Considering that he personaly overseen their production. I have always found it hard to beleive that he just took it home ad trashed it. Could it be that he had reworked it to his own creative piece.

I saddens me to read this forum and see that because many of you have not seen it in print there for it cannot be. Shame on so many of you like this post of youdon't want to know.

How can we be collectors (historians in a way) and have such closed minds?

Ron Wood · 04-29-2002, 02:54 PM

It would be nice to think this was the other test Luger, but it isn't. According to accounts, serial numbers 1 and 2 were provided for the test. Serial number 2 is the surviving highly publicized piece. Serial number 1 was subjected to extensive abuse during the test, including a rusting process that wouldn't have left it in a very good cosmetic state (true, it could have been refinished later, but I doubt that it would be in the condition shown for this carbine). Also, since serial number 2 did not go back to Germany, it is reasonable to believe number 1 remained behind also. Finally, the serial number on the carbine is not 1. I am sure Ralph will reveal what it is at a later date.

04-29-2002, 06:06 PM

Goog afternoon: What serial No is the 45 in the Museum in LA on Display? The One Harry Jones Found after the Fight with SID Aberman about his "FAKE" 45 Luger. An interesting Story in 1945. Yes its the same one that sold for $1,000000.00. See even the Experts then Could be wrong. You have older Collector's that remember. HISTORY QUESTION: What Town did Sid find the 45 in?. Prize is a FREE PAD ON THE BACK.

04-29-2002, 06:49 PM

Hello Ralph, I won't cheat since you were kind enough to e-mail me the story...a few days ago...

Another good question would be how much did Sid pay for his .45 cal. luger.

The answer will put all Forum members in shock !!!

04-29-2002, 07:16 PM

04-30-2002, 01:15 AM

Guten Morgen, Kamaraden !

Das ist been zwein years that Ich been looking at your Der Lugerforum websitesche!

Apgemacht!

Liebe Herr,

Georgie.

schwob · 04-30-2002, 08:57 PM

This Old Geo must be from the mountains, very high up.

04-29-2002, 02:22 PM	#1
sidhartha User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 54 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	.45 Carbine (Reposted) Could this be the other luger that was tested for the U.S. I have always read that the second one was PROBABLY destoyed. I have always had a problem with that idea. Being a gun enthusiust I hate to see any gun destoyed. Making these guns must have been a labor of love for Mr. Luger. Considering that he personaly overseen their production. I have always found it hard to beleive that he just took it home ad trashed it. Could it be that he had reworked it to his own creative piece. I saddens me to read this forum and see that because many of you have not seen it in print there for it cannot be. Shame on so many of you like this post of youdon't want to know. How can we be collectors (historians in a way) and have such closed minds?

04-29-2002, 02:54 PM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,179 Times in 1,703 Posts	Re: .45 Carbine (Reposted) It would be nice to think this was the other test Luger, but it isn't. According to accounts, serial numbers 1 and 2 were provided for the test. Serial number 2 is the surviving highly publicized piece. Serial number 1 was subjected to extensive abuse during the test, including a rusting process that wouldn't have left it in a very good cosmetic state (true, it could have been refinished later, but I doubt that it would be in the condition shown for this carbine). Also, since serial number 2 did not go back to Germany, it is reasonable to believe number 1 remained behind also. Finally, the serial number on the carbine is not 1. I am sure Ralph will reveal what it is at a later date.

04-29-2002, 06:06 PM	#3
Ralph E Shattuck Guest Posts: n/a	Re: .45 Carbine (Reposted) Goog afternoon: What serial No is the 45 in the Museum in LA on Display? The One Harry Jones Found after the Fight with SID Aberman about his "FAKE" 45 Luger. An interesting Story in 1945. Yes its the same one that sold for $1,000000.00. See even the Experts then Could be wrong. You have older Collector's that remember. HISTORY QUESTION: What Town did Sid find the 45 in?. Prize is a FREE PAD ON THE BACK.

04-29-2002, 06:49 PM	#4
Wm. "Pete" Ebbink Guest Posts: n/a	Ralph, I Won't Cheat... Hello Ralph, I won't cheat since you were kind enough to e-mail me the story...a few days ago... Another good question would be how much did Sid pay for his .45 cal. luger. The answer will put all Forum members in shock !!!

04-29-2002, 07:16 PM	#5
Brandon Metcalf Guest Posts: n/a	Since you know Pete, Give me a hint. (EOM)

04-30-2002, 01:15 AM	#6
HerrGeorgLuger Guest Posts: n/a	Re: .45 Carbine (Reposted) Guten Morgen, Kamaraden ! Das ist been zwein years that Ich been looking at your Der Lugerforum websitesche! Apgemacht! Liebe Herr, Georgie.

04-30-2002, 08:57 PM	#7
schwob RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Coast of Maine Posts: 273 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: .45 Carbine (Reposted), antwort/answer This Old Geo must be from the mountains, very high up.