Africa campaign

hayhugh · 11-28-2015, 09:06 PM

I see on eBay a kaki colored P08 holster (canvas). I realize this is not an actual German holster. Did the Germans have other holster to go with the kaki colored uniforms and equipment (guns tanks etc.) used in Africa, other then the black holsters?

sheepherder · 11-28-2015, 11:18 PM

I think the only way to determine that is to examine archival period movie footage...Like Raiders Of The Lost Ark...

lugerholsterrepair · 11-28-2015, 11:22 PM

No..The leather holster was employed throughout the Africa campaign. The only genuine canvas holster period photo I have ever seen with a canvas Luger holster was from WW1. Likewise a canvas holster..I have only seen one I thought was genuine and it was a WW1 type.

Raiders Of The Lost Ark..A really GREAT movie! Not sure how accurate all the gear was...haven't seen it in a decade.

hayhugh · 11-29-2015, 09:30 AM

Not looking for a canvas holster, just wondering if the Germans used the black holster with their kaki uniforms. Just does not seem like something the Germans would do.

lugerholsterrepair · 11-29-2015, 12:28 PM

Just does not seem like something the Germans would do. They tried the concept in a number of efforts but tradition dies hard. They pretty much stuck with leather as long as it was available. Paper was a fallback material before and after canvas. But as far as I know in the Africa campaign the Germans had a lot more to worry about than the black on khaki problem. Supply in general. They did use a canvas belt pretty extensively there though. Another thought..I suspect it may have been difficult to change holster material type manufacture all of a sudden. Look at the trouble with winter clothing they had in Russia.

laoshi75 · 12-01-2015, 06:53 AM

This artillery canvas holster was in my collection; I sold it a few years ago. There was a regiment marking.

Vlim · 12-06-2015, 10:56 AM

Sorry for the late response, have been in a move, so stuff was in two locations.

Here are some photos from North-Africa, you can see the normal holsters used.

You can see that the uniforms were not that regulated under those conditions as well

George Anderson · 12-06-2015, 05:11 PM

Oh my goodness, one sock and an Italian helmet! They must have been shocked back at OKW.

Ben M. · 12-06-2015, 07:42 PM

and sexiful cocktail dress?

11-28-2015, 09:06 PM	#1
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 896 Thanks: 857 Thanked 513 Times in 275 Posts	Africa campaign I see on eBay a kaki colored P08 holster (canvas). I realize this is not an actual German holster. Did the Germans have other holster to go with the kaki colored uniforms and equipment (guns tanks etc.) used in Africa, other then the black holsters?

11-28-2015, 11:18 PM	#2
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,183 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts	I think the only way to determine that is to examine archival period movie footage...Like Raiders Of The Lost Ark... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

11-28-2015, 11:22 PM	#3
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	No..The leather holster was employed throughout the Africa campaign. The only genuine canvas holster period photo I have ever seen with a canvas Luger holster was from WW1. Likewise a canvas holster..I have only seen one I thought was genuine and it was a WW1 type. Raiders Of The Lost Ark..A really GREAT movie! Not sure how accurate all the gear was...haven't seen it in a decade. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

11-29-2015, 12:28 PM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Just does not seem like something the Germans would do. They tried the concept in a number of efforts but tradition dies hard. They pretty much stuck with leather as long as it was available. Paper was a fallback material before and after canvas. But as far as I know in the Africa campaign the Germans had a lot more to worry about than the black on khaki problem. Supply in general. They did use a canvas belt pretty extensively there though. Another thought..I suspect it may have been difficult to change holster material type manufacture all of a sudden. Look at the trouble with winter clothing they had in Russia. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

12-01-2015, 06:53 AM	#6
laoshi75 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Thailand/France Posts: 490 Thanks: 288 Thanked 96 Times in 41 Posts	This artillery canvas holster was in my collection; I sold it a few years ago. There was a regiment marking. Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

11-29-2015, 09:30 AM	#4
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 896 Thanks: 857 Thanked 513 Times in 275 Posts	Not looking for a canvas holster, just wondering if the Germans used the black holster with their kaki uniforms. Just does not seem like something the Germans would do.

12-06-2015, 10:56 AM	#7
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	Sorry for the late response, have been in a move, so stuff was in two locations. Here are some photos from North-Africa, you can see the normal holsters used. You can see that the uniforms were not that regulated under those conditions as well Attached Thumbnails

12-06-2015, 05:11 PM	#8
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,529 Times in 787 Posts	Oh my goodness, one sock and an Italian helmet! They must have been shocked back at OKW.

12-06-2015, 07:42 PM	#9
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 488 Thanks: 90 Thanked 123 Times in 83 Posts	and sexiful cocktail dress?