Unknown marking

Karl · 06-07-2002, 01:14 PM

My 1914 DWM has a very small stamp under the barrel and on the right side of the triggerguard which I have been unable to identify. It looks like two superimposed "W"s below a blob. The gun is also marked with "N" below eagle which I believe indicates that it was a Mauser rework. Attached (I hope) is a photo. Thanks in advance for your help. KFS [img]confused.gif[/img]

Herb · 06-07-2002, 03:19 PM

Karl, I found three of the eagle stamps in Costanzo's book but all three that look like yours are on post war commercial Lugers dating from 1950 to 71. The other mark is not clear enough to get an idea of what it is, is the one on the trigger guard any better? Also, have never seen that 9mmP stamping before either.

Kyrie · 06-08-2002, 08:27 PM

Hi Karl,

The eagle over Ã¢??NÃ¢?Â is the post war West German commercial proof.

Warm regards,

Kyrie

Karl · 06-09-2002, 04:48 PM

Thanks for the info Herb and Kyrie,

I'm confused, would post-war German commmercial marks be on a 1914 DWM? Numbers on barrel, reciever and most other parts match, and the barrel and reciever have correct DWM military proof marks according to the Luger Forum web pages for markings. I note that there is a eagle over "N" proof mark listed there for early 1930-33 mauser reworks (#36 on "Proof 4" page). This resembles the eagle over "N" stamped on all major parts of the gun. KFS

Herb · 06-09-2002, 09:16 PM

The three that I found were the only types that matched your eagle, perhaps yours was just not cataloged at the time. There are a whole bunch of eagle over N shown but only three with wings that fold up and over the eagles head. I would imagine that particular eagle for that date is just not shown. Would like to get a better shot of that other mark on the trigger guard.

Karl · 06-10-2002, 06:16 PM

Thanks Herb,

I will try to get scan of triggerguard mark soon but have to borrow a friend's camera. KFS <img src="graemlins/wave.gif" border="0" alt="[byebye]" />

06-07-2002, 01:14 PM	#1
Karl Lifer - Twice Over Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Savannah Posts: 522 Thanks: 0 Thanked 271 Times in 118 Posts	Unknown marking My 1914 DWM has a very small stamp under the barrel and on the right side of the triggerguard which I have been unable to identify. It looks like two superimposed "W"s below a blob. The gun is also marked with "N" below eagle which I believe indicates that it was a Mauser rework. Attached (I hope) is a photo. Thanks in advance for your help. KFS [img]confused.gif[/img]

06-07-2002, 03:19 PM	#2
Herb User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Utah, in the land of the Sleeping Rainbow Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Karl, I found three of the eagle stamps in Costanzo's book but all three that look like yours are on post war commercial Lugers dating from 1950 to 71. The other mark is not clear enough to get an idea of what it is, is the one on the trigger guard any better? Also, have never seen that 9mmP stamping before either. __________________ Utah, where gun control means a steady trigger pull

06-09-2002, 09:16 PM	#5
Herb User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Utah, in the land of the Sleeping Rainbow Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	The three that I found were the only types that matched your eagle, perhaps yours was just not cataloged at the time. There are a whole bunch of eagle over N shown but only three with wings that fold up and over the eagles head. I would imagine that particular eagle for that date is just not shown. Would like to get a better shot of that other mark on the trigger guard. __________________ Utah, where gun control means a steady trigger pull

06-08-2002, 08:27 PM	#3
Kyrie User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 757 Thanks: 0 Thanked 212 Times in 101 Posts	Hi Karl, The eagle over Ã¢??NÃ¢?Â is the post war West German commercial proof. Warm regards, Kyrie

06-09-2002, 04:48 PM	#4
Karl Lifer - Twice Over Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Savannah Posts: 522 Thanks: 0 Thanked 271 Times in 118 Posts	Thanks for the info Herb and Kyrie, I'm confused, would post-war German commmercial marks be on a 1914 DWM? Numbers on barrel, reciever and most other parts match, and the barrel and reciever have correct DWM military proof marks according to the Luger Forum web pages for markings. I note that there is a eagle over "N" proof mark listed there for early 1930-33 mauser reworks (#36 on "Proof 4" page). This resembles the eagle over "N" stamped on all major parts of the gun. KFS

06-10-2002, 06:16 PM	#6
Karl Lifer - Twice Over Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Savannah Posts: 522 Thanks: 0 Thanked 271 Times in 118 Posts	Thanks Herb, I will try to get scan of triggerguard mark soon but have to borrow a friend's camera. KFS <img src="graemlins/wave.gif" border="0" alt="[byebye]" />