New Member With First Artillery Luger

woosley1966 · 05-04-2022, 12:20 AM

Hello and thank you for looking. I just purchased this Luger last Sunday. I seen this on a local online gun board and snatched this up. I woke up early and seen this advertised in Anchorage so I called. Luckily I was the first caller! Please help me with any info you experts can give. What is the value? Please forgive me if there are too many pics.

Mike.
Wasilla, AK

lugerholsterrepair · 05-04-2022, 12:34 AM

Condition a little on the rough side but yeah! Ida jumped all over it too! Will make a dandy shooter. Find a stock..that's the next thing you will want! Nice score...You don't show the chamber date but likely a 1917

gunnertwo · 05-04-2022, 01:55 AM

All the numbers I see are matching, what am I missing? The left upper receiver with the 6/5 overstamp?

Mike, Jerry can repair the holster, he does wonders with leather.

You did very well, I'd jump at that price too. Welcome to the Forum.

G2

Doubs · 05-04-2022, 02:17 AM

Welcome to the forum. That's a nice first Luger.

I don't see the year but I'm guessing 1917. A bit rough as Jerry says but certainly not bad and for $1,000 with the holster, tool and cleaning rod, you did better than "good" IMO. I assume the bore is decent. Like gunnertwo, I don't see any mismatched numbers except the magazine and that's common.

Jerry, the first to reply to your post, can repair the holster and make it serviceable. His work is highly regarded as he knows his stuff.

jeb111 · 05-04-2022, 10:08 AM

I agree with the others you did well for $1000 more than well and if the bore is decent you’ll have a fun shooter. Never apologize for too many pictures there is no such thing! My dilemma is even with a rough finish if all the parts are truly matching does it fall into the shooter category? Me personally I still would be a bit nervous about breaking a numbered part but this is an ongoing debate something I’m not trying to rehash. Enjoy your Arty and welcome to the forum!
Jim

lugerholsterrepair · 05-04-2022, 11:46 AM

Yes, I may have been too hasty! Scanned too quickly. Seems to be matching. My apologies! Still the score most collectors would love to find at that price!

woosley1966 · 05-04-2022, 02:49 PM

Thank you gentlemen. I appreciate your replies. Believe it or not, the bore is perfect and shiny. I was amazed after looking at the outside appearance.

mrerick · 05-04-2022, 05:28 PM

Welcome to the forum, and congratulations on your Artillery Luger.

If it's any consolation, I've seen serial number die overstamping before. I have one from Mauser in 1936.

It's possible that a factory worker picked up the wrong die, stamped the number digit, realized the error and then overstamped the correct digit.

That said, there is quite a bit of damage around the attached barrel serial number area, and the receiver sits proud of the frame, which sometimes indicates that the frame was manipulated in this area.

woosley1966 · 05-04-2022, 07:50 PM

I shot the Luger today. While it has a horrendous trigger pull, it is accurate.

Doubs · 05-04-2022, 08:06 PM

As I suspected, it's a 1917. The Artillery Lugers are very accurate. Often the trigger pull on a Luger is long but not necessarily heavy. It's the length of pull that sometimes puts people off. I've shot Lugers that had excellent light triggers and others that are long and a bit heavy but once used to the pull, they are quite accurate.

LU1900 · 05-04-2022, 11:28 PM

Nice gun but bad "putzstock"

Mac Cat · 05-05-2022, 01:46 PM

Great pictures and I agree, too.
You got a deal and a very nice Luger !

Don't keep it in the holster.

Deputywood · 05-06-2022, 06:46 AM

What's "bad" about the cleaning rod? AKA: "putzstock"

Woody

LU1900 · 05-06-2022, 08:02 AM

The cleaning rod is a repro , here a good one :
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Deputywood · 05-06-2022, 08:56 AM

Thank you for the quick response. I didn't look close enough to the original picture.

Woody

spangy · 05-06-2022, 10:18 PM

And yet another innocent man falls ill with the deadly Georg-lugerous disease.
You thought 'well thats an attractive piece of gear', I don't suppose buying just this one will hurt anything ya ??

Once home you noticed and thought about the incredible beauty of this machined masterpiece of functional art. You started reading and studying the important history surrounding this pistol and how the semi-automatics evolved from these few giants in weapons engineering Maxim, Borchardt, luger ... on and on and on.

No one stops at one Luger, married or not .... So welcome to the club woosley1966, but more pictures next time OK ??

By the way ... An artillery Luger with a holster for a MERE 1K is an awesome deal in today's current market ... all these are signs that this was meant to be.

Welcome to the forum brother.

woosley1966 · 05-08-2022, 04:18 AM

You Sir, are on to something, LOL. I have lunch this coming Monday with my friend Don Rousseau. Don said he will school me on Lugers. Although my Luger is not anything Don would purchase, he will tell me about it. I know Don to only collect the finest. Don has invited me to view his collection in the past and hope that Monday will be my lucky day. I can say, I will be Sgt. Schultz after Monday. I know nothing, I see nothing, I hear nothing!!!!

mrerick · 05-09-2022, 11:15 AM

Please download a copy of our Lugerforum FAQ PDF document to bring with you. Just follow the FAQ link at the top of forum pages to the post, and download the PDF file. You'll find it a useful reference.

woosley1966 · 08-23-2022, 03:20 PM

I was lucky enough to purchase another artillery Luger through Don Rousseau. This was not Don’s Luger but someone close to him. The new acquisition is the Luger on the bottom.

Mac Cat · 08-23-2022, 04:02 PM

I love your new LP.08 !

The first luger I bought, in fact, was a 1917 LP.08.

05-04-2022, 12:20 AM	#1
woosley1966 User Join Date: May 2022 Posts: 5 Thanks: 4 Thanked 28 Times in 5 Posts	New Member With First Artillery Luger Hello and thank you for looking. I just purchased this Luger last Sunday. I seen this on a local online gun board and snatched this up. I woke up early and seen this advertised in Anchorage so I called. Luckily I was the first caller! Please help me with any info you experts can give. What is the value? Please forgive me if there are too many pics. Mike. Wasilla, AK Last edited by woosley1966; 08-23-2022 at 03:07 PM.

05-04-2022, 12:34 AM	#2
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Condition a little on the rough side but yeah! Ida jumped all over it too! Will make a dandy shooter. Find a stock..that's the next thing you will want! Nice score...You don't show the chamber date but likely a 1917 __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know." Last edited by lugerholsterrepair; 05-04-2022 at 11:47 AM.

05-04-2022, 11:46 AM	#6
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Yes, I may have been too hasty! Scanned too quickly. Seems to be matching. My apologies! Still the score most collectors would love to find at that price! __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

05-04-2022, 05:28 PM	#8
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	Welcome to the forum, and congratulations on your Artillery Luger. If it's any consolation, I've seen serial number die overstamping before. I have one from Mauser in 1936. It's possible that a factory worker picked up the wrong die, stamped the number digit, realized the error and then overstamped the correct digit. That said, there is quite a bit of damage around the attached barrel serial number area, and the receiver sits proud of the frame, which sometimes indicates that the frame was manipulated in this area. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

05-04-2022, 11:28 PM	#11
LU1900 User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FRANCE Posts: 908 Thanks: 42 Thanked 469 Times in 197 Posts	Nice gun but bad "putzstock" __________________ Best regards from France...Patrice https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/

05-04-2022, 01:55 AM	#3
gunnertwo User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nampa, Idaho Posts: 623 Thanks: 826 Thanked 930 Times in 363 Posts	All the numbers I see are matching, what am I missing? The left upper receiver with the 6/5 overstamp? Mike, Jerry can repair the holster, he does wonders with leather. You did very well, I'd jump at that price too. Welcome to the Forum. G2

05-04-2022, 02:17 AM	#4
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,700 Thanks: 792 Thanked 1,692 Times in 555 Posts	Welcome to the forum. That's a nice first Luger. I don't see the year but I'm guessing 1917. A bit rough as Jerry says but certainly not bad and for $1,000 with the holster, tool and cleaning rod, you did better than "good" IMO. I assume the bore is decent. Like gunnertwo, I don't see any mismatched numbers except the magazine and that's common. Jerry, the first to reply to your post, can repair the holster and make it serviceable. His work is highly regarded as he knows his stuff.

05-04-2022, 10:08 AM	#5
jeb111 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: May 2018 Location: wyoming Posts: 277 Thanks: 712 Thanked 331 Times in 133 Posts	I agree with the others you did well for $1000 more than well and if the bore is decent you’ll have a fun shooter. Never apologize for too many pictures there is no such thing! My dilemma is even with a rough finish if all the parts are truly matching does it fall into the shooter category? Me personally I still would be a bit nervous about breaking a numbered part but this is an ongoing debate something I’m not trying to rehash. Enjoy your Arty and welcome to the forum! Jim

05-04-2022, 02:49 PM	#7
woosley1966 User Join Date: May 2022 Posts: 5 Thanks: 4 Thanked 28 Times in 5 Posts	Thank you gentlemen. I appreciate your replies. Believe it or not, the bore is perfect and shiny. I was amazed after looking at the outside appearance.

05-04-2022, 07:50 PM	#9
woosley1966 User Join Date: May 2022 Posts: 5 Thanks: 4 Thanked 28 Times in 5 Posts	I shot the Luger today. While it has a horrendous trigger pull, it is accurate.

05-04-2022, 08:06 PM	#10
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,700 Thanks: 792 Thanked 1,692 Times in 555 Posts	As I suspected, it's a 1917. The Artillery Lugers are very accurate. Often the trigger pull on a Luger is long but not necessarily heavy. It's the length of pull that sometimes puts people off. I've shot Lugers that had excellent light triggers and others that are long and a bit heavy but once used to the pull, they are quite accurate.

05-05-2022, 01:46 PM	#12
Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 733 Thanks: 2,100 Thanked 610 Times in 329 Posts	Great pictures and I agree, too. You got a deal and a very nice Luger ! Don't keep it in the holster.

05-06-2022, 06:46 AM	#13
Deputywood User Join Date: Apr 2022 Posts: 73 Thanks: 74 Thanked 87 Times in 36 Posts	What's "bad" about the cleaning rod? AKA: "putzstock" Woody

05-06-2022, 08:02 AM	#14
LU1900 User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FRANCE Posts: 908 Thanks: 42 Thanked 469 Times in 197 Posts	The cleaning rod is a repro , here a good one : / Attached Images __________________ Best regards from France...Patrice https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/

05-06-2022, 08:56 AM	#15
Deputywood User Join Date: Apr 2022 Posts: 73 Thanks: 74 Thanked 87 Times in 36 Posts	Thank you for the quick response. I didn't look close enough to the original picture. Woody

05-06-2022, 10:18 PM	#16
spangy Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 617 Thanks: 3,065 Thanked 1,057 Times in 429 Posts	And yet another innocent man falls ill with the deadly Georg-lugerous disease. You thought 'well thats an attractive piece of gear', I don't suppose buying just this one will hurt anything ya ?? Once home you noticed and thought about the incredible beauty of this machined masterpiece of functional art. You started reading and studying the important history surrounding this pistol and how the semi-automatics evolved from these few giants in weapons engineering Maxim, Borchardt, luger ... on and on and on. No one stops at one Luger, married or not .... So welcome to the club woosley1966, but more pictures next time OK ?? By the way ... An artillery Luger with a holster for a MERE 1K is an awesome deal in today's current market ... all these are signs that this was meant to be. Welcome to the forum brother. __________________ Whoever said that "money can't buy you happiness" never bought a Luger. WTB - Take Down Lever & Trigger Plate (#90) for an Imperial Artillery.

05-08-2022, 04:18 AM	#17
woosley1966 User Join Date: May 2022 Posts: 5 Thanks: 4 Thanked 28 Times in 5 Posts	You Sir, are on to something, LOL. I have lunch this coming Monday with my friend Don Rousseau. Don said he will school me on Lugers. Although my Luger is not anything Don would purchase, he will tell me about it. I know Don to only collect the finest. Don has invited me to view his collection in the past and hope that Monday will be my lucky day. I can say, I will be Sgt. Schultz after Monday. I know nothing, I see nothing, I hear nothing!!!!

05-09-2022, 11:15 AM	#18
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	Please download a copy of our Lugerforum FAQ PDF document to bring with you. Just follow the FAQ link at the top of forum pages to the post, and download the PDF file. You'll find it a useful reference. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

08-23-2022, 03:20 PM	#19
woosley1966 User Join Date: May 2022 Posts: 5 Thanks: 4 Thanked 28 Times in 5 Posts	When the opportunity presents itself …… I was lucky enough to purchase another artillery Luger through Don Rousseau. This was not Don’s Luger but someone close to him. The new acquisition is the Luger on the bottom. Attached Thumbnails

08-23-2022, 04:02 PM	#20
Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 733 Thanks: 2,100 Thanked 610 Times in 329 Posts	I love your new LP.08 ! The first luger I bought, in fact, was a 1917 LP.08.