Renaisance wax

Major Tom · 02-13-2023, 03:02 PM

Forgive my spelling. How clean does the metal have to be? Does every trace of oil have to be removed? Adding several coats of wax, then oil it? Sounds like a good product but a lot of work?
Thanks guys

Edward Tinker · 02-13-2023, 03:46 PM

It is not bad at all, at least for me. I cleaned them normally, then wiped oil off. then wiped on wax. More than one coat doesn't get you much more protection.
NO oil afterwards, no reason to add any.

Ed

Vlim · 02-13-2023, 03:52 PM

I just surface dry the gun, massage on the wax with one rag, let it sit for a few minutes, then wipe with another cloth. And that's it.

Museums use it on any surface, including wood and paint. The whole idea of the wax was to have an easy to apply, non-reactive layer of protection that lasts many years.

sdmark777 · 02-13-2023, 05:25 PM

Forgive my ignorance. I have never waxed any firearms. I have always just wiped them down with an oily cloth every so often (6 months to a year at least).
So am I to understand some of you coat your Lugers with renaissance wax and then don't oil them for years?
Do you ever take the wax off? If so how or do you just reapply wax every few years?
New idea to me. Thanks for educating me. Mark

Vlim · 02-13-2023, 05:45 PM

Yes, waxing is all I do.
And just repeat after a few years if needed.
They should last at least 5 years without problems.

Just put a little wax on a cloth, wipe and that's it.
No need to clean before applying a new coat.

sdmark777 · 02-13-2023, 07:46 PM

Thanks for the info. Learn something new every so often. Thank you guys.

Karl · 02-14-2023, 10:15 AM

This is new to me as well. Is there a reason for specifically using Renaissance Wax? I see that there is a Flitz "rifle and gun & knife wax" on Amazon as well as the Renaissance Wax.

KFS

Vlim · 02-14-2023, 10:52 AM

Renaissance Wax was specifically developed for museum use and the recipe is open source. It is a microcrystalline wax that reacts with nothing and protects against handling, tarnishing (silver, brass) and can be applied to just about anything.

Edward Tinker · 02-14-2023, 12:31 PM

I agree with Vlim, it feels crazy when you've used Hoppes and CLP for the last 50 yrs

This awful picture is my reblued carbine that I used wax on about 4 yrs ago - no sign of rust and it can be wiped off for dust.

Vlim · 02-14-2023, 12:43 PM

You will also need very little, so a small tin will last for years.

On the dust: the wax is also dust repellant.

I know it sounds like I have shares in the company, but it really is that good.

Major Tom · 02-15-2023, 09:26 AM

So, I do not have to meticulously remove oil already on the firearm? Just apply wax over it?

Vlim · 02-15-2023, 11:42 AM

Just wipe the outer surface dry.

Edward Tinker · 02-15-2023, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Major Tom

So, I do not have to meticulously remove oil already on the firearm? Just apply wax over it?

Also, read the directions. You don't want to leave any oil behind, a little won't hurt, but don't over think it.

wipe it DRY and apply wax, then lightly buff...

Eugen · 02-24-2023, 12:24 PM

I really like Renaissance wax. Its clearish and easy to apply and to wipe off any excess. Unlike other presevative products, it is ph neutral. Only a little is necessary so while expensive a can goes a long way. Think of Kroil oil. That's another great product that is expensive, but also indispensable and a can lasts a long time. Lastly, one can use this wax on metal, leather and also wood.

spangy · 02-25-2023, 12:27 PM

I use museum wax as well from Lee Valley Tool ... same as Renaissance but 2x's the volume @ 1/2 the cost.

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Piranha451 · 02-26-2023, 07:34 AM

I have a novice question: Is the use of Renaissance Wax on firearms for those that are not used or can it be applied to firearms that are shot on a regular basis?

Vlim · 02-26-2023, 09:41 AM

It is a preservation wax for long term storage, display and occassional handling.

For shooting you need something that is well lubricated with a proper oil or grease.

tharpo · 02-26-2023, 12:35 PM

Can you see the wax on the metal after it is applied?

Vlim · 02-26-2023, 12:39 PM

Not at all.

tenbears · 02-27-2023, 08:50 PM

Renaissance Wax also works well on leather. I have used it for years on bayonet frogs, holsters, etc.

02-13-2023, 03:02 PM	#1
Major Tom User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: S.E. Iowa Posts: 484 Thanks: 533 Thanked 227 Times in 124 Posts	Renaisance wax Forgive my spelling. How clean does the metal have to be? Does every trace of oil have to be removed? Adding several coats of wax, then oil it? Sounds like a good product but a lot of work? Thanks guys __________________ I Build Custom Pistol Boxes

02-14-2023, 12:31 PM	#9
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,938 Thanks: 2,035 Thanked 4,538 Times in 2,097 Posts	I agree with Vlim, it feels crazy when you've used Hoppes and CLP for the last 50 yrs This awful picture is my reblued carbine that I used wax on about 4 yrs ago - no sign of rust and it can be wiped off for dust. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

02-15-2023, 09:26 AM	#11
Major Tom User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: S.E. Iowa Posts: 484 Thanks: 533 Thanked 227 Times in 124 Posts	So, I do not have to meticulously remove oil already on the firearm? Just apply wax over it? __________________ I Build Custom Pistol Boxes

02-24-2023, 12:24 PM	#14
Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 790 Thanks: 395 Thanked 631 Times in 334 Posts	I really like Renaissance wax. Its clearish and easy to apply and to wipe off any excess. Unlike other presevative products, it is ph neutral. Only a little is necessary so while expensive a can goes a long way. Think of Kroil oil. That's another great product that is expensive, but also indispensable and a can lasts a long time. Lastly, one can use this wax on metal, leather and also wood. __________________ “God created war so that Americans would learn geography.” ― Mark Twain

02-25-2023, 12:27 PM	#15
spangy Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 617 Thanks: 3,065 Thanked 1,057 Times in 429 Posts	I use museum wax as well from Lee Valley Tool ... same as Renaissance but 2x's the volume @ 1/2 the cost. And NO ... I don't work for Lee, it's just one of my favorite stores. https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca __________________ Whoever said that "money can't buy you happiness" never bought a Luger. WTB - Take Down Lever & Trigger Plate (#90) for an Imperial Artillery.

02-13-2023, 03:46 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,938 Thanks: 2,035 Thanked 4,538 Times in 2,097 Posts	It is not bad at all, at least for me. I cleaned them normally, then wiped oil off. then wiped on wax. More than one coat doesn't get you much more protection. NO oil afterwards, no reason to add any. Ed

02-13-2023, 03:52 PM	#3
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	I just surface dry the gun, massage on the wax with one rag, let it sit for a few minutes, then wipe with another cloth. And that's it. Museums use it on any surface, including wood and paint. The whole idea of the wax was to have an easy to apply, non-reactive layer of protection that lasts many years.

02-13-2023, 05:25 PM	#4
sdmark777 User Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 288 Thanks: 696 Thanked 676 Times in 174 Posts	Forgive my ignorance. I have never waxed any firearms. I have always just wiped them down with an oily cloth every so often (6 months to a year at least). So am I to understand some of you coat your Lugers with renaissance wax and then don't oil them for years? Do you ever take the wax off? If so how or do you just reapply wax every few years? New idea to me. Thanks for educating me. Mark

02-13-2023, 05:45 PM	#5
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	Yes, waxing is all I do. And just repeat after a few years if needed. They should last at least 5 years without problems. Just put a little wax on a cloth, wipe and that's it. No need to clean before applying a new coat.

02-13-2023, 07:46 PM	#6
sdmark777 User Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 288 Thanks: 696 Thanked 676 Times in 174 Posts	Thanks for the info. Learn something new every so often. Thank you guys.

02-14-2023, 10:15 AM	#7
Karl Lifer - Twice Over Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Savannah Posts: 522 Thanks: 0 Thanked 271 Times in 118 Posts	This is new to me as well. Is there a reason for specifically using Renaissance Wax? I see that there is a Flitz "rifle and gun & knife wax" on Amazon as well as the Renaissance Wax. KFS

02-14-2023, 10:52 AM	#8
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	Renaissance Wax was specifically developed for museum use and the recipe is open source. It is a microcrystalline wax that reacts with nothing and protects against handling, tarnishing (silver, brass) and can be applied to just about anything.

02-14-2023, 12:43 PM	#10
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	You will also need very little, so a small tin will last for years. On the dust: the wax is also dust repellant. I know it sounds like I have shares in the company, but it really is that good.

02-15-2023, 11:42 AM	#12
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	Just wipe the outer surface dry.

02-26-2023, 07:34 AM	#16
Piranha451 User Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 21 Thanks: 18 Thanked 15 Times in 5 Posts	I have a novice question: Is the use of Renaissance Wax on firearms for those that are not used or can it be applied to firearms that are shot on a regular basis?

02-26-2023, 09:41 AM	#17
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	It is a preservation wax for long term storage, display and occassional handling. For shooting you need something that is well lubricated with a proper oil or grease.

02-26-2023, 12:35 PM	#18
tharpo Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West Coast, USA Posts: 543 Thanks: 116 Thanked 382 Times in 157 Posts	Can you see the wax on the metal after it is applied?

02-26-2023, 12:39 PM	#19
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	Not at all.

02-27-2023, 08:50 PM	#20
tenbears User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 370 Thanks: 3 Thanked 26 Times in 15 Posts	Renaissance Wax also works well on leather. I have used it for years on bayonet frogs, holsters, etc.