Two new Swiss - Questions

southriv · 04-13-2005, 01:07 PM

Hi, I just aquired two Swiss Lugers, an 06 Cross in Sunburst and an 06/24 (variation1). The Cross in Sunburst may be a rework. I am not so sure on the 06/24. Both do not have the last 2-3 digits of the serial # on the takedown lever (at any location). I am also trying to find out a litle more about the additional proofing, beyond the most common proofs - the known inspectors proofs usually seen on the left side of the frame or the "p" denoting release to the public (I do not have the "p"). Both Lugers have additional Geneva cross markings which I do not see on the 06 Cross in Shield I got last year. Are these the markings indicating reworks of the O6 and 06/24 models & how can you tell if they are Bern or otherwise? I have the Bobba book, but many of his pistols , (including the one on the cover, the 06/24s on pages 127 &131) have this additional cross. Kenyon refers to the existance of the additional Geneva cross proofs, Reese says thay are signs of a rework & Datig makes no reference in his "monographIV".

These are both in excellent condition & have shiny bores. I figure the 1906/CSu is from 1907 and the 06/24 from 1923. There is very slight grip strap wear on the 06 Cross in Sunbust and some muzzle wear, light side plate wear and toggle slap marks on both. Neither have any bluing on the inside of the frame or magwell. The 06 Cross in Sunbust has the correct disc mag and the 06/24 has a mag numbered to the pistol.

I'm looking to learn a bit from the experts on these. I am learning that reworks can be more common than originals & as such, given the quality of Swiss arsenal work, are as prized as non-reworks. Given this, I am going into the two with the assumption these are keepers - they are very nice.....It was the Cross in Shield I bought last year that drove me to this!

Thanks, Bob

04-13-2005, 01:07 PM	#1
southriv User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Countryside New England Posts: 148 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Two new Swiss - Questions Hi, I just aquired two Swiss Lugers, an 06 Cross in Sunburst and an 06/24 (variation1). The Cross in Sunburst may be a rework. I am not so sure on the 06/24. Both do not have the last 2-3 digits of the serial # on the takedown lever (at any location). I am also trying to find out a litle more about the additional proofing, beyond the most common proofs - the known inspectors proofs usually seen on the left side of the frame or the "p" denoting release to the public (I do not have the "p"). Both Lugers have additional Geneva cross markings which I do not see on the 06 Cross in Shield I got last year. Are these the markings indicating reworks of the O6 and 06/24 models & how can you tell if they are Bern or otherwise? I have the Bobba book, but many of his pistols , (including the one on the cover, the 06/24s on pages 127 &131) have this additional cross. Kenyon refers to the existance of the additional Geneva cross proofs, Reese says thay are signs of a rework & Datig makes no reference in his "monographIV". These are both in excellent condition & have shiny bores. I figure the 1906/CSu is from 1907 and the 06/24 from 1923. There is very slight grip strap wear on the 06 Cross in Sunbust and some muzzle wear, light side plate wear and toggle slap marks on both. Neither have any bluing on the inside of the frame or magwell. The 06 Cross in Sunbust has the correct disc mag and the 06/24 has a mag numbered to the pistol. I'm looking to learn a bit from the experts on these. I am learning that reworks can be more common than originals & as such, given the quality of Swiss arsenal work, are as prized as non-reworks. Given this, I am going into the two with the assumption these are keepers - they are very nice.....It was the Cross in Shield I bought last year that drove me to this! Thanks, Bob