Imperial Navy Holster Makers - Help Needed

[Norme]

I'm planning on including a list of known Navy holster makers in the next edition of "The Navy List". I believe it will be helpful in deciphering maker's marks that too often are only partly legible. Enclosed is the list of what I have so far, if you know of any others, please PM me before I "go to print". Thanks, Norm

[klaus 3338]

Norn, nice idea- Thanks fot the list.
I have same questions and some photos.

I have not seen a A. Dahl Navy holster- can I see a photo please?
I have only seen Navy mag. pouches of ALBERT MÖLLER D´dorf ?
Please write ED. MOZER KARLSRUHE and F. J. DANIEL BÜHL I/B
Is it possible that J. BUGEN is L. RITGEN KARLSRUHE?
I never saw a holster of Tilman Berlin- can I see a photo please?
Same with Joseph Schwartz and Kersten. I´m living 20 kilometer from Crefeld (now Krefeld)- it would be nice to see a holster.
Please write M.OSWALD Karlsruhe and Stegmann & Bussau HAMBURG

I know RICH. MÖLLER ELBERFELD; SATTLER GEN. DÜSSELDORF and H.Müller & Co Offenbach i.B. (the last made mag. pouches)

[Norme]

Hi Klaus, Thanks for all that additional information, I'll send you the updated list, as part of the soon to be released "Navy List, V". I only have two photos to share, they are of holsters I own. As for the others you asked about, I'll give you references in a few days. Some of them were illustrated in books. Best regards, Norm

[klaus 3338]

Your second holster is the best I ever saw.

I have a few pics more. But they are well known makers.
No. 16 is LOH SÖHNE ACT.GES. BERLIN

[Norme]

Thanks for those pictures, Klaus, you truly have an amazing holster collection. I'm enclosing two more photos of my Wilh. Doll holster. It's the best one I've seen, also.
With regard to your questions, I unfortunately did not note down where I saw the holsters on my list (I will from now on). An A. Dahl/Barmen holster is pictured in "Imperial Lugers" by Jan Still on page 190. An Albert Möller/Dusseldorf Type 1 holster,and an L.Bugen/Karlsruhe Type 2 are illustrated in the new Görtz/Sturgess book "Pistole Parabellum". If you don't already have this book, you should get it. It's coverage of holsters and accessories is superb and the illustrations are wonderful. Best regards, Norm

[klaus 3338]

Thanks for the holsters pictures. It a wonderful holster.
I think that J. Burgen is definite L.Ritgen.
Some of the holsters on the photos are not mine; some photos are from my achive.

[Norme]

Hi Klaus, I will change J.Burgen to L. Ritgen as you suggested. The illustration in "The Pistole Parabellum" is indistinct, and I think Sturgess may have misread it. Thanks for all your help. Best regards, Norm

[Jim_R]

I have one holster that seems to be marked B. Wiedermann at Berlin N.39.

[Norme]

Hi Jim, Thanks for that hitherto unknown Navy holster maker. Can you post photos of the holster and the makers's mark? Regards, Norm

[Jim_R]

I will try to take pictures. The maker is extremely difficult to read.

[lugerholsterrepair]

Norm, Do you have a closer photo of the knot on the end of your brown Navy pull-up strap? I have seen some very different types on Navy holsters..this is one I might not have come accross?
Thanks, Jerry Burney

[Norme]

Hi Jerry, Do these help? Best regards, Norm

[lugerholsterrepair]

Norm, Yes! Exactly! Now I have one other question..is the strap on the inside of the holster overyly long? I have worked on a Navy holster recently where it was pointed as yours is and there was no knot. The strap hung out of the holster for 4-5 inches. Actually tucked into the closure tab of the closure strap. It was also a type 2 holster as I remember.

Jerry Burney

[Norme]

Hi Jerry, It's hard to measure the pull up strap accurately. When I pull it out as far as it will go, it protrudes 7". It doesn't seem noticeably longer than the strap on my Type 1 holster. Best regards, Norm

[lugerholsterrepair]

Norm, It sounds like your pull-up is normal the way it is...Pointed and tied into an unusual knot..One I have not come accross. Nothing normal about Navy holsters!

Thanks, Jerry

[klaus 3338]

Originally Posted by Jim_R

I will try to take pictures. The maker is extremely difficult to read.

You read it correct.