Will it hurt the value?

[SteveM]

Originally Posted by vietec

Thanks all, I've decided to just sell it and hopefully not lose money on it. I'll post it to gunbroker, and probably post a WTB here for a gun that is a little on the cheaper side.

I would probably keep it if it were me, it appears it was very early production. The 338th one made. Made 1969 or 1970.

[Sergio Natali]

Actually if one wants a good and reliable LUGER for the range I think that one surely is.
The price for a mismatched P.08 perhaps would be a bit lower, but in any case I'm sure that this new Mauser would be absolutely pefect for the range, and it's also a beautiful gun; so I would probably keep it myself, as in the end selling it and looking for an old P.08 wouldn't be worth the time and money saved.

[Tomathvl]

Reread post 13 by Tom Heller. The gun has already been fired. Anyone with knowledge will see that wear pattern. So, you've nothing to gain by selling it unless you just don't like it.

[vietec]

Hey out of curiosity, where would I see the fired pattern? I know there's a line in front of the left side toggle, but I assumed they were from hand cycling. I didn't see any wear on the back, and the extractor area looks unscuffed.

Not disagreeing, just looking to learn for some (I hesitate to say) future references.

[ithacaartist]

Originally Posted by vietec

Hey out of curiosity, where would I see the fired pattern? I know there's a line in front of the left side toggle, but I assumed they were from hand cycling. I didn't see any wear on the back, and the extractor area looks unscuffed.

Not disagreeing, just looking to learn for some (I hesitate to say) future references.

Check the back end, above the import mark. This is the area where the rear toggle link's duck-tail contacts the frame when it is fired.

[vietec]

I think I see what you're talking about. Is it possible that said wear pattern is also caused by hand cycling? I ask because the extractor area where the round would generally grind against has no wear/debris.

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by vietec

I think I see what you're talking about. Is it possible that said wear pattern is also caused by hand cycling? I ask because the extractor area where the round would generally grind against has no wear/debris.

Hi,

This Luger looks to have been fired quite a bit from the wear pattern on the rear frame and with hotter ammo.

No, hand cycling would not produce such deep wear marks.


Sieger

[DonVoigt]

I don't think you would see that much wear/metal displacement.

Ext. can be cleaned of brass markings pretty easily.

Doesn't matter why, been cycled or shot- so just shoot it.

Small parts are not numbered- to answer your other question-.

[vietec]

115Gr Blazer/federal/WWB should be fine and not excessive in this gun right?

[ithacaartist]

Yes. 115 gr or 124 gr standard loads--no +P , +P+, or NATO ammo, all of which is too hot. Best to avoid steel cases. WWB is a recommended go-to ammo, but other regular stuff can work fine, as well. Mine will digest just about anything, S&B, Fiocchi, Federal, Blazer brass, Privi, and of course WWB.

[rhuff]

If you are going to shoot it(I would), you need to purchase 1-2 Mec-Gar mags and use them for shooting. The original mags with the plastic bases are prone to break when loaded fully with ammo. It is best to keep the original mags in good condition. Enjoy!!

[vietec]

Ithacaartist thanks for the suggestions, I generally reload 147gn for my newer stuff, but I wouldn't mind buying up some brass bulk federal or winchester to feed this thing. Ruff- I'll keep that in mind, especially with cdnn's sale on them.

[kurusu]

Originally Posted by vietec

Ithacaartist thanks for the suggestions, I generally reload 147gn for my newer stuff, but I wouldn't mind buying up some brass bulk federal or winchester to feed this thing. Ruff- I'll keep that in mind, especially with cdnn's sale on them.

If reloading stay away from the 147gn. The 9mm was never designed for such bullet weight. Stick with 115gn or 124gn.

Just my 2 cents.

[vietec]

Kurusu I've only been loading subsonic 147gn for my modern stuff primarily for suppressed reasons. It's going nowhere near my p08

[Sergio Natali]

ASAIK as designed for Georg Luger by DWM the original round was only 8g (123gr.) Flachspitzengeschob conical point solid bullet loaded into a 9X19 Luger Parabellum case, and if I'm not wrong the creation of the 147JHP bullet was only intended for the SEALs and surely not for a SD firearm, least of all for a LUGER pistol I would say!
My two bob.


Cheers.

[Eugen]

Originally Posted by luger.parabellum

Flachspitzengeschob

Ok, Sergio, just one question. Did you spell that word without looking it up?

Well, I had to look it up, and thanks to you, I just added another unique word to my vocabulary. Cool word! But, I am sure I will have to look it up again to spell it correctly.

[Sergio Natali]

... of course I say a few words like that as soon as I wake up every morning, like some sort of tongue-twisters... why do you mean that you don't do it??

[John Sabato]

Flachspitzengeschob (conical point solid) bullet from Hodgden Manual 26th Edition. It just rolls off the tongue, doesn't it?

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by John Sabato

Flachspitzengeschob (conical point solid) bullet from Hodgden Manual 26th Edition. It just rolls off the tongue, doesn't it?

The original DWM Number 278F was a real work of art. The hollow point version, Number 278H was also awesome.

I'd like to recreate the 278F in a cast lead bullet if I could find the time.

Sieger

[Eugen]

Originally Posted by John Sabato

Flachspitzengeschob (conical point solid) bullet from Hodgden Manual 26th Edition. It just rolls off the tongue, doesn't it?

Yes, and I can hardly wait to use that word on the 'other' German (Sig and H&K) gun forums that I frequent when the discussion comes up regarding 9mm bullets shapes. I am going to impress them with my new found word and its background.