Info Needed on 1902 Luger Carbine

Pauper · 08-10-2005, 09:40 AM

I need some info and help on a 1902 (Pre WW I) Luger Carbine (German Made) Stamped DMW (Not Swiss Stamped) in 30 Cal. I can't seem to determine form any of the books that have been written (not that I have that many reference books on these pistols) if this carbine model is an "American Eagle Version" or not? It is all original with stock and even has the original carry case. Magnificent if I do say so! It also has the grip safety (as the Luger Books state it should have, to be an "Am. Eagle Version"), but it is not stamped in the upper part of the receiver with the eagle stamp, just DMW. It is definitely not a military version which to my understanding, the military versions were all stamped with the eagle. I guess my real question is, were all these Luger Carbines models marked with the "Eagle" stamp on the receiver or was that just the military versions that were marked as such? What have I got???? Is it an "American Eagle" and just the commercial version or what????

Any help from you Luger experts out there would be most appreciated.

Navy · 08-10-2005, 10:27 AM

Hi Pauper,

Buying carbines will make one a pauper; I have acquired 2 in last two months. Not all 1902 carbines had the American Eagle on the chamber; those were especially marked for the US market. By far the majority of 1902 carbines have no markings on chamber and simply the DWM monogram on the toggle.

Tom A.

John D. · 08-10-2005, 10:31 AM

Hi Pauper and Tom..!

I'm going to move this to the proper Forum.. Thanks!!!

John D.

Pete Ebbink · 08-10-2005, 11:51 AM

Claude,

By chance...is this the one you have and are selling ? The ad says this one has the AE on the chamber, though...

http://www.auctionarms.com/search/di...temnum=6860659

Ron Wood · 08-10-2005, 12:17 PM

Claude,
All carbines are commercial, they were not military issue. The only military American Eagles were the US Test Trial pieces that were standard 7.65mm with a 4 3/4 inch barrel.

Navy · 08-10-2005, 01:24 PM

While Ron is absolutely correct, I have run across a couple of carbines with gold (presumably) plates attached to the butt stock indicating that they were presented as prizes to military folks from a senior officer or unit. Not military but military related.

How about the price on that rig? The casing is cool, but worth that much above and beyond the $15K or so that '02s generally go for these days.

It is certainly pretty, tho....

Tom A

08-10-2005, 09:40 AM	#1
Pauper New User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Info Needed on 1902 Luger Carbine I need some info and help on a 1902 (Pre WW I) Luger Carbine (German Made) Stamped DMW (Not Swiss Stamped) in 30 Cal. I can't seem to determine form any of the books that have been written (not that I have that many reference books on these pistols) if this carbine model is an "American Eagle Version" or not? It is all original with stock and even has the original carry case. Magnificent if I do say so! It also has the grip safety (as the Luger Books state it should have, to be an "Am. Eagle Version"), but it is not stamped in the upper part of the receiver with the eagle stamp, just DMW. It is definitely not a military version which to my understanding, the military versions were all stamped with the eagle. I guess my real question is, were all these Luger Carbines models marked with the "Eagle" stamp on the receiver or was that just the military versions that were marked as such? What have I got???? Is it an "American Eagle" and just the commercial version or what???? Any help from you Luger experts out there would be most appreciated.

08-10-2005, 12:17 PM	#5
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	Claude, All carbines are commercial, they were not military issue. The only military American Eagles were the US Test Trial pieces that were standard 7.65mm with a 4 3/4 inch barrel. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

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08-10-2005, 10:27 AM	#2
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Hi Pauper, Buying carbines will make one a pauper; I have acquired 2 in last two months. Not all 1902 carbines had the American Eagle on the chamber; those were especially marked for the US market. By far the majority of 1902 carbines have no markings on chamber and simply the DWM monogram on the toggle. Tom A.

08-10-2005, 10:31 AM	#3
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	Hi Pauper and Tom..! I'm going to move this to the proper Forum.. Thanks!!! John D.

08-10-2005, 11:51 AM	#4
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Claude, By chance...is this the one you have and are selling ? The ad says this one has the AE on the chamber, though... http://www.auctionarms.com/search/di...temnum=6860659

08-10-2005, 01:24 PM	#6
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	While Ron is absolutely correct, I have run across a couple of carbines with gold (presumably) plates attached to the butt stock indicating that they were presented as prizes to military folks from a senior officer or unit. Not military but military related. How about the price on that rig? The casing is cool, but worth that much above and beyond the $15K or so that '02s generally go for these days. It is certainly pretty, tho.... Tom A