my profile |
register |
faq |
search upload photo | donate | calendar |
06-30-2008, 07:15 PM | #1 |
Moderator
Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Arizona/Colorado
Posts: 7,772
Thanks: 4,940
Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts
|
Kill Mold NOW!!
I have been experimenting with killing the pesky mold spores for years. I won't bore you with the experiments only the SUCCESS!
It is relatively simple but involves your Wife's kitchen appliances... Good luck! I have deleted this very bad advice...See more current method. Jerry Burney
__________________
Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know." Last edited by lugerholsterrepair; 11-13-2017 at 11:25 PM. |
06-30-2008, 08:45 PM | #2 |
RIP
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia
Posts: 2,482
Thanks: 0
Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts
|
Yo, Paratrooper,
How long have holsters treated thusly been mold free? YAP, Tom A |
06-30-2008, 09:52 PM | #3 |
Moderator
Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Arizona/Colorado
Posts: 7,772
Thanks: 4,940
Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts
|
Tom, A month is all I can claim right now. I seem to have certain problem pieces. No matter what I put on them they would regrow mold. Other pieces have never had any mold on them. It's so dry here I can't understand how mold grows anyway.
I used these problem pieces-MP40 sling strap-as tests. It was covered white! So far it has not shown a spec of mold growth. I guess it is still an ongoing experiment but it sure as heck makes the thick white mold disapear! The stuff is hard to clean off any of the normal ways and I always worry I could be spreading it around. It's promising anyway...I would be very surprised if it did not kill it permanently. Airborne! Jerry Burney
__________________
Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know." |
06-30-2008, 09:59 PM | #4 |
Super Moderator
Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: North of Spokane, WA
Posts: 15,935
Thanks: 2,034
Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts
|
how come the heat of boiling doesn't break down the leather?
__________________
Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV |
07-01-2008, 02:46 AM | #5 |
User
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 231
Thanks: 4
Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts
|
I wondered that also, pretty hot. Sounds promising, keep us updated!
__________________
Went Blakely |
07-01-2008, 09:49 AM | #6 |
User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: brisbane
Posts: 150
Thanks: 3
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
|
I have a problem with Mildue on my collection of guns and accessories in my safes . I think "Mold" is similar , some sort of Fungus.
A museum conservator told me air circulation is the key to getting rid of such pests . Apparently they like still damp air. I have tried bags of silica gel but it makes no difference . He suggested installing small electric fans like in a computer , or simply opening up the safes and putting on a fan now and again , to keep the air circulating. worth a try .
__________________
arma tuentur pacem |
07-01-2008, 12:07 PM | #7 |
Moderator
Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Arizona/Colorado
Posts: 7,772
Thanks: 4,940
Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts
|
I as well as many others I know have had problem pieces for many years. The stuff seems to select a piece it likes and makes a home there while leaving others alone.
Perhaps museums have a more controlled environment that most homes. I have talked to many a collector who has mold problems even with the dessicant and safe hot rods. Once this stuff takes hold it's a problem to shake off. Ed, I guarentee you 212 degrees will not harm leather. I have tried it many times and the mold disapears, the leather is soft and pliable. Just like it should be. The leather only gets the heat and no moisture penetrates. Another consideration...the mold is doing extreme damage to the leather. Eating the thread too..It's best to kill it. A lot of people who send me holsters for repair don't even know they have a mold problem but I often find thick mold on the insides of holsters. Take a look with a flashlight at the insides! Jerry Burney
__________________
Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know." |
07-01-2008, 12:47 PM | #8 |
User
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 231
Thanks: 4
Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts
|
Interesting, i did a little research of my own today after i saw this thread and discovered some damned interesting info. The mold can survive incredibly high temperatures and pressures, low temps (about 2 degrees!), can survive being airbourne, stay alive in a dormant state, and live unnoticed to the naked eye! only when colonies have established, does it become visible. no wonder it's so hard to get rid of. Touch wood, but currently i'm not seeing much at all in my gear, except since you mentioned it i did have a real close look, and have taken a suspect 45 holster away from the group. Where are you blokes storing stuff, for this to happen?
__________________
Went Blakely |
07-01-2008, 01:24 PM | #9 |
Moderator
Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Arizona/Colorado
Posts: 7,772
Thanks: 4,940
Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts
|
Went, In your research how high a temp can they survive?
I get no mold on 99% of my leather stored in plastic or cardboard boxes,, holsters with a known problem get it laying out in the open on a shelf. Some holsters I have had for 30 years with no problems. Others have been infected and get a white covering every several months. Jerry Burney
__________________
Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know." |
07-01-2008, 02:11 PM | #10 |
Moderator
Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Europe
Posts: 5,053
Thanks: 1,036
Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts
|
The trick to killing of molds seems to be rather simple, but it's actually difficult. Without moisture, they die.
The trick is to remove the moisture without damaging the leather and to keep moisture levels to an acceptable degree afterwards without damaging (drying out) the leather. I guess that's why Jerry's method works. Creating a vacuum, boiling and then freezing should remove most moisture from the molds direct environment thus killing it off. |
The following member says Thank You to Vlim for your post: |
07-01-2008, 10:50 PM | #11 |
User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 23
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
I had heard that mold could be killed by putting the leather or canvas piece in a plastic bag with a couple of mothballs, seal the bag and let everything sit for a few days.
Haven't had the occasion to try this myself, but I know the fumes from mothballs are toxic, so it sounds like it might be worth a try. |
07-02-2008, 03:41 AM | #12 |
User
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 231
Thanks: 4
Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts
|
Jerry unfortunately there was no base answer, rather just 'extremely high temperatures' Most of mine are in a glass cabinet with a few holes, save a few that i don't have room for and am still yet to build a new shelf/cabinet to show them in. I'll have to get some plastics slips to seal them in and put them in a drawer until i get around to it. My suspect one appears to be starting around the stitching, strangely its the best condition one i have, that looks to have been treated very very well, almost unissued condish. Could it be something in a leather treatment that can trigger it off? Also a bit off topic, but i did get around to using that Connollys - LOVE it, it's the bomb!
__________________
Went Blakely |
The following 3 members says Thank You to Went Blakely for your post: |
07-02-2008, 11:43 AM | #13 |
Moderator
Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Arizona/Colorado
Posts: 7,772
Thanks: 4,940
Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts
|
Went, Thanks! As far as living things on the surface of the Planet goes..212 is a pretty high temperature I guess!
Mold, like most everything else has to eat, drink and breathe. This is why it is suggested by most not to use any leather treatment if that is an available option. Mold eats it. They like thread too. Linen thread is made of a plant fiber. Glad to hear you like the Connoly's. It really is great stuff if used correctly. Too Tech..The stink of mothballs is too terrible for me to be around. It might work but it's not a solution for me. I like to sniff my holsters! Jerry Burney
__________________
Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know." |
07-02-2008, 10:57 PM | #14 |
User
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 231
Thanks: 4
Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts
|
Not a problem, you're not wrong about the mothballs, i have never owned and never will own them, the smell drives me crazy!
__________________
Went Blakely |
11-13-2017, 10:20 PM | #15 |
Lifetime Forum
Patron Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Fairbanks, Alaska. Home of the best moose.
Posts: 660
Thanks: 366
Thanked 1,179 Times in 395 Posts
|
When you sniff the mothballs, how do you spread their tiny little legs?
|
The following 11 members says Thank You to gunbugs for your post: |
11-13-2017, 11:24 PM | #16 |
Super Moderator
Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: North of Spokane, WA
Posts: 15,935
Thanks: 2,034
Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts
|
Well, with that low comment I see this was never a sticky, nor closed
|
11-13-2017, 11:50 PM | #17 |
Moderator
Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Arizona/Colorado
Posts: 7,772
Thanks: 4,940
Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts
|
An old joke I first heard in grade school..60 years ago! And it's likely as old as mothballs..It did bring this old thread to my attention though..it was full of bad advice so I deleted the original post. Use my better method for mold removal..NOT this!
__________________
Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know." |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|