The H in Unit Mark?

Dick Herman · 06-30-2010, 04:02 PM

I recently acquired a 1911 Erfurt Luger with the following unit mark, "9.A.F.III.8.H.10".

Using Jan Still's "Imperial Lugers" I translate the unit mark into "The 9th Foot Artillery Regiment, 3rd Army Ciops, 8th Battery, H, Weapon No. 10".

Still's only listing for H is Husar (hussars, cavalry). Could this be correct for a Foot Artillery Regiment? Could horses and cavalry been used to move artillery weapons?

I would appreciate an comments or advice regarding what the H is.

George Anderson · 06-30-2010, 04:46 PM

9th Fussartillerie-Regiment, III Bataillons, Haubitze (schwere), Waffe Nr.10. I'm taking a guess on the heavy howitzer interbretation but I think that is what it indicates.

whcoyote · 10-11-2010, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by George Anderson

9th Fussartillerie-Regiment, III Bataillons, Haubitze (schwere), Waffe Nr.10. I'm taking a guess on the heavy howitzer interbretation but I think that is what it indicates.

George: What does the "8" signify? Could it be the Battery No, as in 8th Houbitze Batterie?
Bob

George Anderson · 10-11-2010, 08:12 AM

Probably Company as it refers to a munitions colmun.

whcoyote · 10-11-2010, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Anderson

Probably Company as it refers to a muntions colmun.

Geo:
I am confused about the munitions column reference.
Bob

Ron Smith · 10-11-2010, 03:22 PM

"I am confused about the munitions column reference."

Me too.

I would translate it as 9th Foot Artillery Regiment, 3rd Battalion. Haubitze Battery 8. Weapon No. 10

Geo, what am I missing?

Ron

klaus 3338 · 10-12-2010, 06:33 AM

I think it means: 9th Foot Artillery Regiment, 3rd Battailion, 8. Haubitze, Weapon No. 10

George Anderson · 10-12-2010, 08:02 AM

Referring to Goertz and Wacker I interpret it as Fussartillerie-Regiment Nr. 9, Munitionskollonne Nr. 8 des III. Battaillons (Haubtzen), Waffe Nr. 10.

klaus 3338 · 10-16-2010, 04:00 AM

It is a pity with this entry in Goertz book because it is simply wrong. According the stamping order dated 1909 all ammunition units used the abbreviation M for the German word Munition.

06-30-2010, 04:02 PM	#1
Dick Herman User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 302 Thanks: 496 Thanked 354 Times in 138 Posts	The H in Unit Mark? I recently acquired a 1911 Erfurt Luger with the following unit mark, "9.A.F.III.8.H.10". Using Jan Still's "Imperial Lugers" I translate the unit mark into "The 9th Foot Artillery Regiment, 3rd Army Ciops, 8th Battery, H, Weapon No. 10". Still's only listing for H is Husar (hussars, cavalry). Could this be correct for a Foot Artillery Regiment? Could horses and cavalry been used to move artillery weapons? I would appreciate an comments or advice regarding what the H is.

10-11-2010, 08:12 AM	#4
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,529 Times in 787 Posts	Probably Company as it refers to a munitions colmun. Last edited by George Anderson; 10-12-2010 at 07:55 AM.

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Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	"I am confused about the munitions column reference." Me too. I would translate it as 9th Foot Artillery Regiment, 3rd Battalion. Haubitze Battery 8. Weapon No. 10 Geo, what am I missing? Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

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06-30-2010, 04:46 PM	#2
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,529 Times in 787 Posts	9th Fussartillerie-Regiment, III Bataillons, Haubitze (schwere), Waffe Nr.10. I'm taking a guess on the heavy howitzer interbretation but I think that is what it indicates.

10-12-2010, 06:33 AM	#7
klaus 3338 User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 517 Thanks: 0 Thanked 411 Times in 160 Posts	I think it means: 9th Foot Artillery Regiment, 3rd Battailion, 8. Haubitze, Weapon No. 10

10-12-2010, 08:02 AM	#8
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,529 Times in 787 Posts	Referring to Goertz and Wacker I interpret it as Fussartillerie-Regiment Nr. 9, Munitionskollonne Nr. 8 des III. Battaillons (Haubtzen), Waffe Nr. 10.

10-16-2010, 04:00 AM	#9
klaus 3338 User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 517 Thanks: 0 Thanked 411 Times in 160 Posts	It is a pity with this entry in Goertz book because it is simply wrong. According the stamping order dated 1909 all ammunition units used the abbreviation M for the German word Munition.