Hello I am neebie Luger at local shop

garbot · 09-19-2012, 05:37 PM

I need a little help please

1 dated on top frame 1939
2 42 on toggle
3 has 2 eagle/655 with eagle over swastika on left side
4 all numbers match magazine has 4 digits and 1 above, can see faint 2 under number.
5 grips look plastic, maybe wood age ?
6 front of frame has 4 digit number and y also looks to have a partial (x or something like that.
7 the barrel looks to say something then " spandau" with what appears to be a crown with a definate N under it. there is no serial number or size info on barrel.

Dont worry guys im buying a book.
want to find all numbers
Thanks

alanint · 09-19-2012, 08:43 PM

Sounds like a Russian capture pistol? The magazine may have been a former police issued magazine. Photos are everything!!

sheepherder · 09-19-2012, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garbot

7 the barrel looks to say something then " spandau" ...

...Spandau!?!?...You've got a Spandau Luger?!?!?...

Pictures!!!!

Edward Tinker · 09-19-2012, 09:10 PM

welcome, pictures really help us, help you

Curly1 · 09-19-2012, 10:22 PM

Welcome, looking forward to pics if possible.

mrerick · 09-19-2012, 10:23 PM

If you're concerned about values, these RC Lugers recently sold for somewhere in the $500 range.

Marc

jonnyc · 09-20-2012, 08:34 AM

Where are all these $500 Lugers I keep hearing about??? I found one once, and after about $150 more put into it it was actually a working Luger. I don't believe I have seen a complete, working Luger, in the past 5 years or so, for less than $700.

DavidJayUden · 09-20-2012, 08:52 AM

You may have a point. Inflation may have creeped up on us, as I can't rememberr anything in that range lately either.
Anyone else have a source for $500 Lugers?
dju

mrerick · 09-21-2012, 08:35 PM

The most recent RC Lugers from R-Guns were priced at $699-799 a year ago. A few years earlier they were in the $500 range. These are, of course, dealer prices.

A quick search found some postings referencing purchases for some at lower prices... Here's one from December 2011 referencing a pawn shop purchase for $400...

Marc

garbot · 09-23-2012, 02:41 AM

thank for replys will try for pics the shop wants $1600 for it i think they are high on drugs. so i am still investigating. wiil try for pics thanx again

DavidJayUden · 09-23-2012, 10:20 AM

If they are confident on what they are selling, then they won't mind you taking photos so that the forum can tell you what a great deal it is...
dju

alanint · 09-23-2012, 12:39 PM

Are the plastic grips black or brown? Do they have a small circle near the top on each grip?

garbot · 09-26-2012, 05:33 AM

they are brown plastic will try to get pics today

sheepherder · 09-26-2012, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garbot

thank for replys will try for pics the shop wants $1600 for it i think they are high on drugs. so i am still investigating. wiil try for pics thanx again

I have been in gun shops & gun shows (that know I am a buyer not a tire-kicker) that have items on display with inflated price tags and use them as attention-getters...They know the item won't sell at their price, but they don't care - They want you to stop and talk and they're betting they can sell you something, anything...

...I usually offer them $5 for the sandwich they're eating...

garbot · 09-26-2012, 09:42 PM

I went to shop again with my good magnifier and light here is what it is, 1939 42 marked Mauser, 2 eagles over 655, eagle over swastika. eagle on front toggle brown plastic grips. partial circle x on front front of trigger guard. no size data on barrel.proof of crown over N under barrel, here is comes import marks from a company p enn spatzen or something like that had dealer look it up they did rework on lugers including blueing and other required fixes. sorry cant remember full name pretty sure they were out of pennsylvania though. barrel and reciever slightly different colors lloks like 1950 east german proof on barrel.

alanint · 09-26-2012, 11:14 PM

You have an East German, Russian capture luger. The Crown over N on the barrel would indicate a civilian proof, not consistent with the balance of the military pistol.

On its best day, with the wind behind it, I would not pay over $600-$700 for this "shooter" grade pistol.
What is the shop asking for it?

sheepherder · 09-27-2012, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanint

What is the shop asking for it?

OP said $1600...Twice what it's worth...(Approximately)...

09-19-2012, 05:37 PM	#1
garbot New User Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello I am neebie Luger at local shop I need a little help please 1 dated on top frame 1939 2 42 on toggle 3 has 2 eagle/655 with eagle over swastika on left side 4 all numbers match magazine has 4 digits and 1 above, can see faint 2 under number. 5 grips look plastic, maybe wood age ? 6 front of frame has 4 digit number and y also looks to have a partial (x or something like that. 7 the barrel looks to say something then " spandau" with what appears to be a crown with a definate N under it. there is no serial number or size info on barrel. Dont worry guys im buying a book. want to find all numbers Thanks

09-19-2012, 09:10 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	welcome, pictures really help us, help you __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

09-19-2012, 10:22 PM	#5
Curly1 User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1,242 Thanks: 117 Thanked 714 Times in 371 Posts	Welcome, looking forward to pics if possible. __________________ Laugh hard and often. Gary

09-19-2012, 10:23 PM	#6
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	If you're concerned about values, these RC Lugers recently sold for somewhere in the $500 range. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

09-21-2012, 08:35 PM	#9
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	The most recent RC Lugers from R-Guns were priced at $699-799 a year ago. A few years earlier they were in the $500 range. These are, of course, dealer prices. A quick search found some postings referencing purchases for some at lower prices... Here's one from December 2011 referencing a pawn shop purchase for $400... Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

09-19-2012, 08:43 PM	#2
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Sounds like a Russian capture pistol? The magazine may have been a former police issued magazine. Photos are everything!!

09-20-2012, 08:34 AM	#7
jonnyc User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 425 Thanks: 2 Thanked 46 Times in 34 Posts	Where are all these $500 Lugers I keep hearing about??? I found one once, and after about $150 more put into it it was actually a working Luger. I don't believe I have seen a complete, working Luger, in the past 5 years or so, for less than $700.

09-20-2012, 08:52 AM	#8
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	You may have a point. Inflation may have creeped up on us, as I can't rememberr anything in that range lately either. Anyone else have a source for $500 Lugers? dju

09-23-2012, 02:41 AM	#10
garbot New User Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thank for replys will try for pics the shop wants $1600 for it i think they are high on drugs. so i am still investigating. wiil try for pics thanx again

09-23-2012, 10:20 AM	#11
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	If they are confident on what they are selling, then they won't mind you taking photos so that the forum can tell you what a great deal it is... dju

09-23-2012, 12:39 PM	#12
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Are the plastic grips black or brown? Do they have a small circle near the top on each grip?

09-26-2012, 05:33 AM	#13
garbot New User Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	they are brown plastic will try to get pics today

09-26-2012, 09:42 PM	#15
garbot New User Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I went to shop again with my good magnifier and light here is what it is, 1939 42 marked Mauser, 2 eagles over 655, eagle over swastika. eagle on front toggle brown plastic grips. partial circle x on front front of trigger guard. no size data on barrel.proof of crown over N under barrel, here is comes import marks from a company p enn spatzen or something like that had dealer look it up they did rework on lugers including blueing and other required fixes. sorry cant remember full name pretty sure they were out of pennsylvania though. barrel and reciever slightly different colors lloks like 1950 east german proof on barrel.

09-26-2012, 11:14 PM	#16
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	You have an East German, Russian capture luger. The Crown over N on the barrel would indicate a civilian proof, not consistent with the balance of the military pistol. On its best day, with the wind behind it, I would not pay over $600-$700 for this "shooter" grade pistol. What is the shop asking for it?

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