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Unread 03-26-2013, 11:50 AM   #1
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Purchased this and read it. It "seems" to be pretty good - although its like the Nazi era never happened.

A quick search here doesn't say much about it - other than it "contains errors".

What's the scoop?
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A casually writen book, not exhaustive, too obsolete to be useful in the 21st century. A classical entry in the history of Luger literature, no comprehensive Luger library should be without it, but once you have read it you can move on.

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The book can be categorized under 'mostly harmless'.

There are better books available now, with more up to date information, better researched.
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Michael Reese had a monthly column about Lugers back in the 70's in Guns & Ammo. It was about the only place you could regularly find articles about them back then.
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First book I ever came across when I started. Interesting but little depth. Good starter book to pique interest though!
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Ask about what books to buy here, just because its a deal, doesn't mean its the best!

I still like Jones and Datig's books, both are early ones, but have lots of good info
Kenyon is very good, has error's, but overall is excellent for nice, large photos and good explanation when right (most of it is right)

All of Jan Still's books are great, 3rd Reich and Axis pistols is what I assume you are interested in. My favorite has always been Weimar lugers, need a new copy since mine is so worn.

Our new Police Lugers turned out very nice, expensive since we self-published, but nice (its 3:33 AM and I can't sleep, so allowed a b it of self indulgence )
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Default I would certainly recommend Ed and Dwight's Police Lugers book....

a great effort by two very knowledgeable luger professionals................tom
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Find a luger type, time or subject and try to decide which type of luger interests you and then research its history. Pull up a discussion thread on both sites. Don't be afraid to post questions. Don't be shy, we all started the same. Once you settle on a period, Jan' is where to go! I learned in law school there is never a stupid question, only stupid answers. I believe you should have more luger books than lugers. I'm still ahead with books instead of lugers. Right now I have 12 lugers a 21 luger books. OOPs time for another luger! ~~~ Eric
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I also like John Walter's "The Luger Story"... It has a good basic overview.

Keep watch and you'll find a used one.

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Find a luger type, time or subject and try to decide which type of luger interests you and then research its history. Pull up a discussion thread on both sites. Don't be afraid to post questions. Don't be shy, we all started the same. Once you settle on a period, Jan' is where to go! I learned in law school there is never a stupid question, only stupid answers. I believe you should have more luger books than lugers. I'm still ahead with books instead of lugers. Right now I have 12 lugers a 21 luger books. OOPs time for another luger! ~~~ Eric
I'm after a Nazi era example - preferably a 1936, but others are possibilities.

I'm mostly lurking and trying to learn something. Don't know enough to be able to ask very many questions - stupid or otherwise!

But folks here seem to be pretty helpful.
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Purchased this and read it. It "seems" to be pretty good - although its like the Nazi era never happened.

A quick search here doesn't say much about it - other than it "contains errors".

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I'm replying to a very old thread. Not far from me is a Mercedes Benz plant. There is a small museum in the lobby where you can wait before going on a plant tour. There are displays that show the firm's history and vehicles produced during the firm's existence. But nothing between 1933 and 1945! This era never happened.

This forgetfulness was made fun of in a 1960's song, "The I Was Not a Nazi Polka".
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be aware that Adidas manufactured the german bazookas in ww2...puma was also a manufacture source....
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be aware that Adidas manufactured the german bazookas in ww2...puma was also a manufacture source....
Yes, but we should also realize that just about every manufacture in every country participated in their country's war effort directly or indirectly. This is not surprising when you think about it. Just like most nation's citizens did their part in one way or another. During WWII my mom was a 'Rosey the riveter' making Hellcat fighter aircraft in Akron, Ohio, while my dad was over seas in the Army Air Corp.
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At least Mercedes-Benz created a pension fund for former forced laborers.

Mauser also behaved relatively well given the circumstances.
Companies like Varta not so much. They bought labor from the SS and had them work with lead without any protection. Most died an agonising death due to lead poisoning. Varta was part of the same conglomerate, the Quandt group.

So even within the same group of companies, one location or another could treat their workers quite differently.

DWM Berlin also did not win the good conduct award.
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let me put my statement in the proper context-----if my father had served in that theater of the war, and had been killed by a german bazooka as many were, I would have no business dealings with any product or service offered by adidas or puma......
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You are aware that Ford, General Motors and IBM, to name but a few, worked for the German army during WW2?

Wartime industry is an interesting, and sobering, field of research.
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I'm replying to a very old thread. Not far from me is a Mercedes Benz plant. There is a small museum in the lobby where you can wait before going on a plant tour. There are displays that show the firm's history and vehicles produced during the firm's existence. But nothing between 1933 and 1945! This era never happened.

This forgetfulness was made fun of in a 1960's song, "The I Was Not a Nazi Polka".
I know someone who works there. Some of the very most interesting Mercedes models were made in the Nazi era. I own an '85 myself, but wouldn't want one much newer than that - they've completely lost their way, largely because of Lexus to my mind.
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1979SL Convertable during law schoo! Miss It1l
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I have never heard that these American companies mfg anything for the Nazis. cn you expand that ?
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