Krieghoff Bakealite Grips

Oldreb · 09-03-2015, 11:03 PM

Are the Bakealite grips marked or stamped on the back side of a 1936 ?
Thanks

Sergio Natali · 09-04-2015, 07:22 AM

Alton

First off welcome to his Forum of Luger enthusiasts.

KRIEGHOFF grips are not really of bakelite, they started to use that sort of brown plastic more or less at the same time as MAUSER did, as soon as they realized that wood was becoming scarce while plastic was more durable and less expensive.

They initially used two different sorts of brown grips: Fine checked and Coarse checked.
Fine checked ones were made by Hermann Ritzmann & Sohne with the HRS hallmark cast in each grip on the reverse side, and became predominant in the 1936 two digit pieces and apparently ]they were phased out prior to the 1937 production. [/B]

Rgds

Sergio

Oldreb · 09-04-2015, 10:27 AM

Thanks for the information !! In the process of buying my first and most likely only Luger. Seemed the Krieghoff was the one to have if you were only going to have one. Doing lots of research -- trying to make a good decision and make the purchase a good one. Thanks again for taking the time to answer my question. Best Regards, Oldreb

Oldreb · 09-04-2015, 10:33 AM

Sergio -- a follow up question if you will. Based on your reply -- it is now my understanding that the fine checked grips were marked (HRS hallmark) and the coarse checked grips are not. Is this correct ?? Thanks !!
Best Regards,
Oldreb

Sergio Natali · 09-04-2015, 02:03 PM

Alton

Yes as far as I know the Fine Checked grips made by Ritzmann have a some sort of mark on the reverse side while the so called Coarse Checked one do not.

Collecting Lugers is some sort of "desease"... some people have got the "Swiss fever" others have caught something else.
This to say that apart from money, it's only a matter of personal likings, some people for instance would prefer to collect P.08 Mod. "K", others Artillery Lugers, Navy Lugers, American Eagle Lugers or even the most expensive "Luger carbine".

Rgds

Sergio

Oldreb · 09-04-2015, 06:43 PM

Thanks Sergio for the information !! I have spent a right good bit of time roaming around this Fourm the past week or so and I can certainly sense the addictive quality of Lugers and the pursuit of information about them. I have to say I think I'm hooked !! The original idea was I was only going to buy one - that plan is probably only gonna last until the first one I buy arrives. As in the military -- disipline is very important !!
Best Regards,
Oldreb

Sergio Natali · 09-05-2015, 03:49 AM

Alton

I agree with what you say.
This Forum is probably very different from other forums I'be been taking place in the last 20 years or so; this Forum is a bit special and after all how could it be otherwise as we're talking about the Luger, this really amazing gun whose genious design is like no other gun on the planet.

Rgds

Sergio

rhuff · 09-05-2015, 05:15 PM

It would take a VERY disciplined person to own just one Luger. Don't look at me, I don't seem to possess that degree of discipline!! I tried to stop with just one many years ago, but to no avail.

guns3545 · 09-05-2015, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldreb

Are the Bakealite grips marked or stamped on the back side of a 1936 ?
Thanks

Alton,

You may wish to view this link on the other Luger board for photographs.

http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...ieghoff-Lugers

Hope this helps.

John

Oldreb · 09-05-2015, 11:26 PM

Thank you for the insightful comments and helpful links to additional information. I have amended the "Disipline" section of my personal collecting "Rule Book" so as to not limit the number of Lugers I can own -- but only require that I exercise "Disipline" in making my final decision to purchase so as not to -- how do you say "Screw Up' !! Bottom Line -- One Luger just ain't gonna do it !!!

09-03-2015, 11:03 PM	#1
Oldreb User Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: South Carolina Posts: 83 Thanks: 160 Thanked 25 Times in 10 Posts	Krieghoff Bakealite Grips Are the Bakealite grips marked or stamped on the back side of a 1936 ? Thanks

09-04-2015, 07:22 AM	#2
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Alton First off welcome to his Forum of Luger enthusiasts. KRIEGHOFF grips are not really of bakelite, they started to use that sort of brown plastic more or less at the same time as MAUSER did, as soon as they realized that wood was becoming scarce while plastic was more durable and less expensive. They initially used two different sorts of brown grips: Fine checked and Coarse checked. Fine checked ones were made by Hermann Ritzmann & Sohne with the HRS hallmark cast in each grip on the reverse side, and became predominant in the 1936 two digit pieces and apparently ]they were phased out prior to the 1937 production. [/B] Rgds Sergio __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

09-04-2015, 02:03 PM	#5
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Alton Yes as far as I know the Fine Checked grips made by Ritzmann have a some sort of mark on the reverse side while the so called Coarse Checked one do not. Collecting Lugers is some sort of "desease"... some people have got the "Swiss fever" others have caught something else. This to say that apart from money, it's only a matter of personal likings, some people for instance would prefer to collect P.08 Mod. "K", others Artillery Lugers, Navy Lugers, American Eagle Lugers or even the most expensive "Luger carbine". Rgds Sergio __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

09-05-2015, 03:49 AM	#7
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Alton I agree with what you say. This Forum is probably very different from other forums I'be been taking place in the last 20 years or so; this Forum is a bit special and after all how could it be otherwise as we're talking about the Luger, this really amazing gun whose genious design is like no other gun on the planet. Rgds Sergio __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

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09-04-2015, 10:27 AM	#3
Oldreb User Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: South Carolina Posts: 83 Thanks: 160 Thanked 25 Times in 10 Posts	Thanks for the information !! In the process of buying my first and most likely only Luger. Seemed the Krieghoff was the one to have if you were only going to have one. Doing lots of research -- trying to make a good decision and make the purchase a good one. Thanks again for taking the time to answer my question. Best Regards, Oldreb

09-04-2015, 10:33 AM	#4
Oldreb User Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: South Carolina Posts: 83 Thanks: 160 Thanked 25 Times in 10 Posts	Sergio -- a follow up question if you will. Based on your reply -- it is now my understanding that the fine checked grips were marked (HRS hallmark) and the coarse checked grips are not. Is this correct ?? Thanks !! Best Regards, Oldreb

09-04-2015, 06:43 PM	#6
Oldreb User Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: South Carolina Posts: 83 Thanks: 160 Thanked 25 Times in 10 Posts	Thanks Sergio for the information !! I have spent a right good bit of time roaming around this Fourm the past week or so and I can certainly sense the addictive quality of Lugers and the pursuit of information about them. I have to say I think I'm hooked !! The original idea was I was only going to buy one - that plan is probably only gonna last until the first one I buy arrives. As in the military -- disipline is very important !! Best Regards, Oldreb

09-05-2015, 05:15 PM	#8
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,291 Thanks: 2,709 Thanked 972 Times in 717 Posts	It would take a VERY disciplined person to own just one Luger. Don't look at me, I don't seem to possess that degree of discipline!! I tried to stop with just one many years ago, but to no avail.

09-05-2015, 11:26 PM	#10
Oldreb User Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: South Carolina Posts: 83 Thanks: 160 Thanked 25 Times in 10 Posts	Thank you for the insightful comments and helpful links to additional information. I have amended the "Disipline" section of my personal collecting "Rule Book" so as to not limit the number of Lugers I can own -- but only require that I exercise "Disipline" in making my final decision to purchase so as not to -- how do you say "Screw Up' !! Bottom Line -- One Luger just ain't gonna do it !!!