Relieved versus Unrelieved frame?

RShaw · 01-22-2017, 03:57 AM

Hi All,

Have been reading up on Swiss Lugers... I may have an opportunity to obtain a 7,65 mm 06/29... and have come across these two terms- Can someone tell me what "relieved frame" and Unrelieved frame" mean?
Thanks,

mrerick · 01-22-2017, 10:15 AM

Hi Robert,

I believe that the terms only apply to the M1900 pistols.

There was a change to the interior profile of the magazine well fairly early in the run of M1900 pistols.

I don't know of any profile changes for the M1929 guns.

Marc

RShaw · 01-22-2017, 10:31 AM

Ahh Thank you. How does one distinguish these two? Thanks!!

MFC · 01-22-2017, 11:42 AM

Compliments of Ron Wood...

Ron Wood · 01-22-2017, 12:45 PM

Thank you Mike! You saved me the trouble of resurrecting the image. Marc is correct that the unrelieved frame is only a feature of the very early production Swiss Lugers and are probably only found on pieces serial numbered under 700 (I don't recall seeing any beyond that range). Unrelieved frame examples are very rare as most were reworked to relieve the frame to accept the later raised button magazine.
Ron

RShaw · 01-22-2017, 04:14 PM

Great!! Yes..... a photo is worth 1,000 words.... Thanks!!

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mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	Hi Robert, I believe that the terms only apply to the M1900 pistols. There was a change to the interior profile of the magazine well fairly early in the run of M1900 pistols. I don't know of any profile changes for the M1929 guns. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

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Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,179 Times in 1,703 Posts	Thank you Mike! You saved me the trouble of resurrecting the image. Marc is correct that the unrelieved frame is only a feature of the very early production Swiss Lugers and are probably only found on pieces serial numbered under 700 (I don't recall seeing any beyond that range). Unrelieved frame examples are very rare as most were reworked to relieve the frame to accept the later raised button magazine. Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction Last edited by Ron Wood; 01-22-2017 at 05:15 PM.

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01-22-2017, 10:31 AM	#3
RShaw User Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Venlo, the Netherlands Posts: 350 Thanks: 160 Thanked 170 Times in 90 Posts	Ahh Thank you. How does one distinguish these two? Thanks!!

01-22-2017, 04:14 PM	#6
RShaw User Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Venlo, the Netherlands Posts: 350 Thanks: 160 Thanked 170 Times in 90 Posts	Great!! Yes..... a photo is worth 1,000 words.... Thanks!!