Luger Flash suppressor

Major Tom · 05-13-2018, 10:01 AM

Has anyone seen/have one of these? Made for either 30 cal or 9mm. Clamps securely to muzzle via threaded nut. What would be the value?
Thanks

DonVoigt · 05-13-2018, 10:12 AM

Are you looking at a cleaning rod guide, or part of a sub-caliber kit?

Without a picture it is hard to answer your question.

John Sabato · 05-14-2018, 10:54 AM

I would also wager that it is a cleaning rod guide... not a flash suppressor... or the mount for one...

Major Tom · 05-14-2018, 11:18 AM

Listed at phoenix investment arms under 'accessories'.
www.phoenixinvestmentsarms.com/AC12flashsupp.htm

Edward Tinker · 05-14-2018, 12:15 PM

I am sure, someone post-factory has made some flash suppressors - but what you usually see is the above or the below

DonVoigt · 05-14-2018, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Major Tom

Listed at phoenix investment arms under 'accessories'.
www.phoenixinvestmentsarms.com/AC12flashsupp.htm

link is no good

Rick W. · 05-14-2018, 02:27 PM

M.T.,

You link is not quite right.

If one goes to the base link, then accessories, the upper right is the one I suspect.

I always thought it was part of a cleaning function myself.

Looks like a 10 dollar part to me, but that is just me.

John Sabato · 05-14-2018, 03:25 PM

PIA is incorrect in its identification of this device. This is a bore guide for the cleaning rod. It possesses no design feature which would reduce or eliminate a flash, and merely extends the muzzle by a very short distance...

Here is the corrected URL to see it: http://www.phoenixinvestmentarms.com/AC12flashsupp.htm

Edward Tinker · 05-14-2018, 04:26 PM

actually the same part can be used for cleaning OR for 4mm / 22 LR -

Major Tom · 05-14-2018, 06:22 PM

Thank you gents for the info. I thought it looked kinda funky and well over priced.

Bill_in_VA · 05-14-2018, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick W.

[...] the upper right is the one I suspect.[...]

I suspect most things Phoenix Investment has listed on their site.

Rick W. · 05-14-2018, 09:39 PM

I was trying to help with the link definition, and providing a guess of which part the OP was speaking of.

Sharpsdressed Man · 01-30-2020, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Sabato

PIA is incorrect in its identification of this device. This is a bore guide for the cleaning rod. It possesses no design feature which would reduce or eliminate a flash, and merely extends the muzzle by a very short distance...

Here is the corrected URL to see it: http://www.phoenixinvestmentarms.com/AC12flashsupp.htm

Old thread, but I suspect that this device was also used occasionally to provide for a barrel extension for a sound suppressor without modifying the Luger barrel. The front portion of the device only needs to be threaded to fit the suppressor.

Edward Tinker · 01-30-2020, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharpsdressed Man

Old thread, but I suspect that this device was also used occasionally to provide for a barrel extension for a sound suppressor without modifying the Luger barrel. The front portion of the device only needs to be threaded to fit the suppressor.

I think this is one of those myths - and although there is a screw on, on the end, I don't believe it could be used for a suppressor.

LU1900 · 01-30-2020, 08:22 PM

I just find those pics on the web some year ago

Edward Tinker · 01-30-2020, 11:51 PM

fascinating Patrice _ will say hat anything is possible

DonVoigt · 01-31-2020, 10:02 AM

I can't read the description in the book, is it a "flash hider" or sound suppressor?

What is the title of the book?

Patrice, thanks for posting the pictures.

Sharpsdressed Man · 01-31-2020, 04:15 PM

If I could find a reasonably priced one for my 9mm Luger, I'd buy it and give it ago. I have several registered 9mm suppressors, and could easily get a blank extension threaded for my units. Current ones available on Ebay are for the 7.65MM Luger and P38 only.

DonVoigt · 01-31-2020, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharpsdressed Man

If I could find a reasonably priced one for my 9mm Luger, I'd buy it and give it ago. I have several registered 9mm suppressors, and could easily get a blank extension threaded for my units. Current ones available on Ebay are for the 7.65MM Luger and P38 only.

Why?
You would instantly convert your luger to a single shot pistol;
suppressors/silencers don't "silence" anyway- as you no doubt know.

It would be a simple job to thread a spare luger barrel, but switching the barrel requires tools.

If one wanted a look alike, then a modern suppressor won't do the trick either.

JMHO.

Diver6106 · 01-31-2020, 09:35 PM

I believe Ken Kontos of Ebay's Revshop luger parts or Midwest Firearms is making and selling these. For both the PO8 and P38 and designed to lock onto the front blade sight.

05-13-2018, 10:01 AM	#1
Major Tom User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: S.E. Iowa Posts: 484 Thanks: 533 Thanked 227 Times in 124 Posts	Luger Flash suppressor Has anyone seen/have one of these? Made for either 30 cal or 9mm. Clamps securely to muzzle via threaded nut. What would be the value? Thanks __________________ I Build Custom Pistol Boxes

05-13-2018, 10:12 AM	#2
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,442 Thanked 4,351 Times in 2,040 Posts	Are you looking at a cleaning rod guide, or part of a sub-caliber kit? Without a picture it is hard to answer your question. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

05-14-2018, 10:54 AM	#3
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	I would also wager that it is a cleaning rod guide... not a flash suppressor... or the mount for one... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

05-14-2018, 11:18 AM	#4
Major Tom User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: S.E. Iowa Posts: 484 Thanks: 533 Thanked 227 Times in 124 Posts	Luger Flash Suppressor Listed at phoenix investment arms under 'accessories'. www.phoenixinvestmentsarms.com/AC12flashsupp.htm __________________ I Build Custom Pistol Boxes

05-14-2018, 12:15 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,938 Thanks: 2,035 Thanked 4,538 Times in 2,097 Posts	I am sure, someone post-factory has made some flash suppressors - but what you usually see is the above or the below Attached Thumbnails

05-14-2018, 02:27 PM	#7
Rick W. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 339 Thanks: 81 Thanked 359 Times in 198 Posts	M.T., You link is not quite right. If one goes to the base link, then accessories, the upper right is the one I suspect. I always thought it was part of a cleaning function myself. Looks like a 10 dollar part to me, but that is just me.

05-14-2018, 03:25 PM	#8
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	PIA is incorrect in its identification of this device. This is a bore guide for the cleaning rod. It possesses no design feature which would reduce or eliminate a flash, and merely extends the muzzle by a very short distance... Here is the corrected URL to see it: http://www.phoenixinvestmentarms.com/AC12flashsupp.htm __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

05-14-2018, 04:26 PM	#9
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,938 Thanks: 2,035 Thanked 4,538 Times in 2,097 Posts	actually the same part can be used for cleaning OR for 4mm / 22 LR -

05-14-2018, 06:22 PM	#10
Major Tom User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: S.E. Iowa Posts: 484 Thanks: 533 Thanked 227 Times in 124 Posts	Thank you gents for the info. I thought it looked kinda funky and well over priced. __________________ I Build Custom Pistol Boxes

05-14-2018, 09:39 PM	#12
Rick W. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 339 Thanks: 81 Thanked 359 Times in 198 Posts	I was trying to help with the link definition, and providing a guess of which part the OP was speaking of.

01-30-2020, 08:22 PM	#15
LU1900 User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FRANCE Posts: 908 Thanks: 42 Thanked 469 Times in 197 Posts	I just find those pics on the web some year ago Attached Thumbnails __________________ Best regards from France...Patrice https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/

01-30-2020, 11:51 PM	#16
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,938 Thanks: 2,035 Thanked 4,538 Times in 2,097 Posts	fascinating Patrice _ will say hat anything is possible

01-31-2020, 10:02 AM	#17
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,442 Thanked 4,351 Times in 2,040 Posts	I can't read the description in the book, is it a "flash hider" or sound suppressor? What is the title of the book? Patrice, thanks for posting the pictures. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

01-31-2020, 04:15 PM	#18
Sharpsdressed Man User Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 34 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts	If I could find a reasonably priced one for my 9mm Luger, I'd buy it and give it ago. I have several registered 9mm suppressors, and could easily get a blank extension threaded for my units. Current ones available on Ebay are for the 7.65MM Luger and P38 only.

01-31-2020, 09:35 PM	#20
Diver6106 User Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Mt. Vernon VA Posts: 244 Thanks: 1,424 Thanked 117 Times in 75 Posts	I believe Ken Kontos of Ebay's Revshop luger parts or Midwest Firearms is making and selling these. For both the PO8 and P38 and designed to lock onto the front blade sight.