Any Swiss Luger Photos, Out There...?

Pete Ebbink · 06-09-2002, 11:26 PM

Would love to see any photos of Swiss lugers our Forum members own (any DWM, Bern, or even Mauser mdoels...)

Dan Clemons · 06-29-2002, 02:09 AM

Hi Pete:

DWM manufactured these Lugers for commercial sale in Switzerland. According to Charles KenyonÃ¢??s Lugers at Random Ã¢??those examples with a long frame/receiver appear to be of new manufacture and are of the highest quality. Examples with the six inch slim tape barrel are quite scarce.Ã¢?Â Famed Master Gunsmith R. Fluckiger in Zurich, Switzerland reworked mine. He then stamped his trademark an enrayed Federal cross and F Z for his initial and city enclosed in a bow as in bow and arrow on the right side of the receiver. Fluckiger refurbished an unknown but small quantity in 1923-5. Their distinctive barrels have a special front sight made by Hammerli of Lenzburg. All the pistols he worked on where rebuilt and refinished to the highest Swiss standards.

There is no scratch mark in the magazine showing where a bullet has ever exited the clip. For me, it was a find of major proportions and I am very proud to be its caretaker for my brief moment in time. One thing is obvious; the previous owners took very good care of this Luger. I intend to do the same.

Dan

Dan Clemons · 06-29-2002, 02:14 AM

Per Dan Clemon's request, his 2nd. identical thread post has been deleted...

Pete Ebbink - Swiss Co-Moderator

Doug G. · 06-29-2002, 08:20 AM

Here is a pic of my 1900 Cross in Sunburst.

Pete Ebbink · 06-29-2002, 12:29 PM

Hello Dan and Doug,

Asolutely great looking lugers !!!

Enforces the fact that I need to keep building up my Swiss luger family... [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

Thor · 06-29-2002, 01:05 PM

Ron Wood · 07-01-2002, 08:17 PM

1900 Swiss Wide-Trigger Variation

Ron Wood · 07-01-2002, 08:19 PM

1906 Cross in Sunburst

Ron Wood · 07-01-2002, 08:20 PM

1906 Cross in Shield

Ron Wood · 07-01-2002, 08:24 PM

1906 Waffenfabrik Bern

Ron Wood · 07-01-2002, 08:25 PM

1929 Swiss

Pete Ebbink · 07-01-2002, 08:25 PM

Absolutely stunning, Ron !!! <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" />

Can you give me a lesson regarding what looks like a front sight protection device on your two 1906's ?

Were these DWM issued ? Or added by the Swiss ?

Thanks !!! <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

Ron Wood · 07-01-2002, 08:59 PM

They are a Swiss after-market item. I have seen some with a manufacturer's mark on them. Mine are just marked "DEPOSE", or "remove". I think that in a panic situation, they would blow off without damaging the firearm, but it might flip back in your face! I forgot to mention that they are primarily a muzzle/bore protector. Keeps the crud out of the barrel after cleaning.

kidvett · 07-11-2002, 05:48 PM

Very impressive Ron! <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" />

One day I'll ad a SWISS LUGER to my collection, but you got me confused about which one! [img]rolleyes.gif[/img]

kidvett

John Sabato · 07-11-2002, 05:59 PM

thanks for the wonderful photos Ron... Now may I be so bold as to ask "how about a photo layout of your Krausewerke .45" ?

I just can't get enough!

Torquemada055 · 07-11-2002, 09:35 PM

You know, I used to think a Luger would be cool to own. Now after coming here my fantasies have enlarged and my wants have grown.
Then "BANG", I see Ron's "toy's" and my poor wife has to listen to me whine all over again.
My only question is, "Do you take these out to shoot" ?
Or should I buy a collectable and a shooter or drive the wife crazy with my obsession for firearms ?

Edward Tinker · 07-11-2002, 09:55 PM

CollectableS and shooterS

[img]biggrin.gif[/img]

Ron Wood · 07-11-2002, 10:56 PM

Torquemada055
I don't shoot these or other "collectables". I like shooters and have had a few, but unfortunately they usually end up as part of a trade for another collectable. My goal now is to find a decent 1908 shooter, preferably commercial, and have it converted and refinished to a "baby" by the forum's group of outstanding craftsmen. Then I will never be tempted to trade it off because it will be my "one of a kind" and very personal.

Joe · 07-11-2002, 11:09 PM

My 1900 Swiss, with first style safety and relieved frame:

Pete Ebbink · 07-12-2002, 01:14 AM

Thanks, All !!!

Did I get a good Swiss "fix", or what... [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

06-09-2002, 11:26 PM	#1
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Any Swiss Luger Photos, Out There...? Would love to see any photos of Swiss lugers our Forum members own (any DWM, Bern, or even Mauser mdoels...)

06-29-2002, 02:09 AM	#2
Dan Clemons User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 184 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi Pete: DWM manufactured these Lugers for commercial sale in Switzerland. According to Charles KenyonÃ¢??s Lugers at Random Ã¢??those examples with a long frame/receiver appear to be of new manufacture and are of the highest quality. Examples with the six inch slim tape barrel are quite scarce.Ã¢?Â Famed Master Gunsmith R. Fluckiger in Zurich, Switzerland reworked mine. He then stamped his trademark an enrayed Federal cross and F Z for his initial and city enclosed in a bow as in bow and arrow on the right side of the receiver. Fluckiger refurbished an unknown but small quantity in 1923-5. Their distinctive barrels have a special front sight made by Hammerli of Lenzburg. All the pistols he worked on where rebuilt and refinished to the highest Swiss standards. There is no scratch mark in the magazine showing where a bullet has ever exited the clip. For me, it was a find of major proportions and I am very proud to be its caretaker for my brief moment in time. One thing is obvious; the previous owners took very good care of this Luger. I intend to do the same. Dan __________________ Loving Lugers Last edited by Pete Ebbink; 12-29-2004 at 08:58 PM.

06-29-2002, 02:14 AM	#3
Dan Clemons User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 184 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Per Dan Clemon's request, his 2nd. identical thread post has been deleted... Pete Ebbink - Swiss Co-Moderator __________________ Loving Lugers

06-29-2002, 08:20 AM	#4
Doug G. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 713 Thanks: 1 Thanked 53 Times in 17 Posts	Here is a pic of my 1900 Cross in Sunburst. __________________ Suppose you were an idiot.....and suppose you were a member of Congress.....But I repeat myself" ~~ Mark Twain

06-29-2002, 01:05 PM	#6
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	__________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email [email protected] ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

06-29-2002, 12:29 PM	#5
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Dan and Doug, Asolutely great looking lugers !!! Enforces the fact that I need to keep building up my Swiss luger family... [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

07-01-2002, 08:17 PM	#7
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	1900 Swiss Wide-Trigger Variation __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

07-01-2002, 08:19 PM	#8
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	1906 Cross in Sunburst __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

07-01-2002, 08:20 PM	#9
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	1906 Cross in Shield __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

07-01-2002, 08:24 PM	#10
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	1906 Waffenfabrik Bern __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

07-01-2002, 08:25 PM	#11
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	1929 Swiss __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

07-01-2002, 08:59 PM	#13
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	They are a Swiss after-market item. I have seen some with a manufacturer's mark on them. Mine are just marked "DEPOSE", or "remove". I think that in a panic situation, they would blow off without damaging the firearm, but it might flip back in your face! I forgot to mention that they are primarily a muzzle/bore protector. Keeps the crud out of the barrel after cleaning. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

07-11-2002, 05:48 PM	#14
kidvett User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 584 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Very impressive Ron! <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" /> One day I'll ad a SWISS LUGER to my collection, but you got me confused about which one! [img]rolleyes.gif[/img] kidvett

07-11-2002, 05:59 PM	#15
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	thanks for the wonderful photos Ron... Now may I be so bold as to ask "how about a photo layout of your Krausewerke .45" ? I just can't get enough! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

07-11-2002, 09:35 PM	#16
Torquemada055 User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sutter Creek, Ca. Posts: 42 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	You know, I used to think a Luger would be cool to own. Now after coming here my fantasies have enlarged and my wants have grown. Then "BANG", I see Ron's "toy's" and my poor wife has to listen to me whine all over again. My only question is, "Do you take these out to shoot" ? Or should I buy a collectable and a shooter or drive the wife crazy with my obsession for firearms ? __________________ Always remember those who came before, they are the reason we can do the things we do.

07-11-2002, 09:55 PM	#17
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,033 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	CollectableS and shooterS [img]biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

07-11-2002, 10:56 PM	#18
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	Torquemada055 I don't shoot these or other "collectables". I like shooters and have had a few, but unfortunately they usually end up as part of a trade for another collectable. My goal now is to find a decent 1908 shooter, preferably commercial, and have it converted and refinished to a "baby" by the forum's group of outstanding craftsmen. Then I will never be tempted to trade it off because it will be my "one of a kind" and very personal. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

07-11-2002, 11:09 PM	#19
Joe User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 96 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My 1900 Swiss, with first style safety and relieved frame:

07-12-2002, 01:14 AM	#20
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Thanks, All !!! Did I get a good Swiss "fix", or what... [img]biggrin.gif[/img]