Two GNR Lugers - Page 2

Pete Ebbink · 01-07-2008, 11:59 PM

Murray,

It is good you made the posting...you should have no regrets doing so.

Collectors will know they are back on the market.

MFC · 01-08-2008, 01:54 AM

Murry,
I'm glad you made the post. I learned a lot from it. All of us (new collectors) need this kind of info.
BTW, the US supplier of the guns was never named. I think his name should be posted as a sticky on all the forums. I would think that most of the people that have been robbed by this person don't have the time or wherewithall to go after him in court to get there money back.
Mike C.

A.Mifsin · 01-08-2008, 03:04 AM

Wow, You guys know your stuff,

Thanks for the info.
Alfred

Mike B · 12-15-2008, 01:51 AM

I am bringing up this old post to point out another pair of consecutive serial numbered GNR LUGERS. They are being offered for sale by Cabelas. Here is a link to that offering:

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/co...30_2214_kc.jsp

Mike

Ron Wood · 12-15-2008, 02:13 AM

Five grand for a GNR??!!! Guess I will have to stop using mine to prop open the door.

John Sabato · 12-15-2008, 12:07 PM

Ron, just replace the GNR doorstop with your Krausewerk .45 as it is probably shot even less, eh?

alanint · 12-15-2008, 03:51 PM

I would submit that BOTH numbers on the triggers are redone, just one more poorly than the other. It appears that the "grinding" to reduce metal covers the area of both numbers and neither is the same font as the rest of the visible numbers.

LugerVern · 12-15-2008, 06:10 PM

Early Mauser guns mix fonts, this may or may not be a problem.

The GNR's are rare but appear on the market pretty often, I am with Ron in that this price is on the high side. I think most survived and even though rare by their initial numbers they may not be as rare as some of the other Lugers that had initially higher production numbers but are now hard to come by.

It's really about supply and demand.

Several of the GNR's appearing on the market have really strange looking fonts, they look messed with on close inspection, I don't have a good explanation for this, but it shows up often enough to be at least a small concern.

Please be careful on any purchase, buyer beware, I kid you not!

Vern

DavidJayUden · 12-15-2008, 11:29 PM

Funny, but Cabellas has 2 consec. GNR pieces for sale right now. Different numbers however. What are the odds?
DJU

DavidJayUden · 12-15-2008, 11:32 PM

oops, guess I should have read the second page before posting. My bad...

Mike B · 12-15-2008, 11:36 PM

I wrote to Cabelas and asked this questions:

Greetings,
Would you please tell me if the serial number on each Luger is followed by a letter "v".

Their answer:
"NO"

LugerVern · 12-16-2008, 01:54 AM

NO "V"----OUCH!!!!!!!

Thanks Mike!!!!!!

I hope this is not true and the person you talked to didn't know what they were talking about.

I think the guns may still be OK, but obviously if the suffix is not there then they have been forced matched.

What caught my eye was the deep scratches on the toggle but not on the flats of the upper, this just doesn't happen very often in real life. It screams parts gun.

A full in hands inspection would be required before purchase with 3 day return policy.

Vern

A.Mifsin · 12-16-2008, 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LugerVern

NO "V"----OUCH!!!!!!!

Thanks Mike!!!!!!

I hope this is not true and the person you talked to didn't know what they were talking about.

I think the guns may still be OK, but obviously if the suffix is not there then they have been forced matched.

What caught my eye was the deep scratches on the toggle but not on the flats of the upper, this just doesn't happen very often in real life. It screams parts gun.

A full in hands inspection would be required before purchase with 3 day return policy.

Vern

Vern, It seems that the GNR Lugers were made with the letter V, if I am understanding you correctly.

Alf

LU1900 · 12-16-2008, 05:29 AM

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John Sabato · 12-16-2008, 11:24 AM

Which means that these are NOT consecutive serial number GNR pistols.

MFC · 12-17-2008, 02:57 AM

Mike B,
You may have stumped the guy at Cabelas with the wording of your question... "serial number (followed by) a letter v". Most people unfamiliar with Lugers don't realize that the "little squiggly emblem" (under) the serial number is the suffix.

Mike B · 12-17-2008, 09:34 AM

Mike,
I would agree that most or some of the suffix letters look like "little squiggly emblems", but the letter "v" looks like a "v". I will call the salesman today.

Mike

Just spoke to "BC" at the Gun Library in Kansas City, Kansas and had a very nice conversation. The Lugers came out of a collection in the Chicago area. He did substantiate that both Lugers do have a "v" suffix.

Mike

01-08-2008, 01:54 AM	#22
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Murry, I'm glad you made the post. I learned a lot from it. All of us (new collectors) need this kind of info. BTW, the US supplier of the guns was never named. I think his name should be posted as a sticky on all the forums. I would think that most of the people that have been robbed by this person don't have the time or wherewithall to go after him in court to get there money back. Mike C. __________________ Mike C.

01-08-2008, 03:04 AM	#23
A.Mifsin User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malta Posts: 570 Thanks: 74 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Wow, You guys know your stuff, Thanks for the info. Alfred __________________ I prefer a Luger

12-15-2008, 02:13 AM	#25
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,179 Times in 1,703 Posts	Five grand for a GNR??!!! Guess I will have to stop using mine to prop open the door. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

12-15-2008, 12:07 PM	#26
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Ron, just replace the GNR doorstop with your Krausewerk .45 as it is probably shot even less, eh? __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

12-16-2008, 05:29 AM	#34
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01-07-2008, 11:59 PM	#21
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Murray, It is good you made the posting...you should have no regrets doing so. Collectors will know they are back on the market.

12-15-2008, 01:51 AM	#24
Mike B Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 979 Thanks: 1 Thanked 271 Times in 99 Posts	I am bringing up this old post to point out another pair of consecutive serial numbered GNR LUGERS. They are being offered for sale by Cabelas. Here is a link to that offering: http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/co...30_2214_kc.jsp Mike

12-15-2008, 03:51 PM	#27
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	I would submit that BOTH numbers on the triggers are redone, just one more poorly than the other. It appears that the "grinding" to reduce metal covers the area of both numbers and neither is the same font as the rest of the visible numbers.

12-15-2008, 06:10 PM	#28
LugerVern User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 563 Thanks: 1 Thanked 34 Times in 27 Posts	Early Mauser guns mix fonts, this may or may not be a problem. The GNR's are rare but appear on the market pretty often, I am with Ron in that this price is on the high side. I think most survived and even though rare by their initial numbers they may not be as rare as some of the other Lugers that had initially higher production numbers but are now hard to come by. It's really about supply and demand. Several of the GNR's appearing on the market have really strange looking fonts, they look messed with on close inspection, I don't have a good explanation for this, but it shows up often enough to be at least a small concern. Please be careful on any purchase, buyer beware, I kid you not! Vern

12-15-2008, 11:29 PM	#29
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Funny, but Cabellas has 2 consec. GNR pieces for sale right now. Different numbers however. What are the odds? DJU

12-15-2008, 11:32 PM	#30
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	oops, guess I should have read the second page before posting. My bad...

12-15-2008, 11:36 PM	#31
Mike B Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 979 Thanks: 1 Thanked 271 Times in 99 Posts	I wrote to Cabelas and asked this questions: Greetings, Would you please tell me if the serial number on each Luger is followed by a letter "v". Their answer: "NO"

12-16-2008, 01:54 AM	#32
LugerVern User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 563 Thanks: 1 Thanked 34 Times in 27 Posts	NO "V"----OUCH!!!!!!! Thanks Mike!!!!!! I hope this is not true and the person you talked to didn't know what they were talking about. I think the guns may still be OK, but obviously if the suffix is not there then they have been forced matched. What caught my eye was the deep scratches on the toggle but not on the flats of the upper, this just doesn't happen very often in real life. It screams parts gun. A full in hands inspection would be required before purchase with 3 day return policy. Vern

12-16-2008, 11:24 AM	#35
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Which means that these are NOT consecutive serial number GNR pistols. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

12-17-2008, 02:57 AM	#36
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Mike B, You may have stumped the guy at Cabelas with the wording of your question... "serial number (followed by) a letter v". Most people unfamiliar with Lugers don't realize that the "little squiggly emblem" (under) the serial number is the suffix. __________________ Mike C.

12-17-2008, 09:34 AM	#37
Mike B Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 979 Thanks: 1 Thanked 271 Times in 99 Posts	Mike, I would agree that most or some of the suffix letters look like "little squiggly emblems", but the letter "v" looks like a "v". I will call the salesman today. Mike Just spoke to "BC" at the Gun Library in Kansas City, Kansas and had a very nice conversation. The Lugers came out of a collection in the Chicago area. He did substantiate that both Lugers do have a "v" suffix. Mike