Found another Luger I might potentially be buying. Need input. - Page 2

Kohaku2416 · 03-17-2012, 04:13 PM

More pics upon request for Jerry!

alanint · 03-17-2012, 04:30 PM

Brandon,

Your grips alone are worth about $300.

Kohaku2416 · 03-17-2012, 04:51 PM

Courtesy to Jerry

alvin · 03-17-2012, 05:04 PM

It's like a small lottery winning. This excellent Mauser Parabellum was sold lower than a rusty 1965 Chinese made tokarev on gunbroker.com a week ago (sold by armsblue.com, I lost the link).

lugerholsterrepair · 03-17-2012, 05:51 PM

Brandon, Thanks for the pics..The Krieghoff grips look authentic to me with the threaded screw holes..I am sure someone will come along and authenticate them if that's possible with these photo's.

The .45 is a Union Switch & Signal Brandon was telling me about.

Kohaku2416 · 03-17-2012, 06:59 PM

Thanks Jerry!

Yeah I would love to hear if the grips are authentic or not. I mean they look too new for me given the condition they are in. Whoever owned this gun took really good care of it... and yeah I am still jealous about that US&S!

TheRomanhistorian · 03-17-2012, 07:19 PM

Brandon, what a lovely find! Nice work and for a good price, too. I think you have many of us envious!

Well, I'm envious (at the very least).

Kohaku2416 · 03-17-2012, 07:27 PM

Thank you I don't wanna sound like I am bragging but I feel pretty good about myself being this is my second attempt at buying a Luger.. my first involved a 1920 commercial 30. Luger that I got for around $600ish for just the gun and one mag labeled Germany.This was my first Luger which I sold shortly after getting it because I couldn't find any ammo for it...now I got a Luger I got ammo for but I don't wanna shoot because of the value! >_<

My first Luger.. a 1920 DWM commercial in 7.65mm Luger.

Kohaku2416 · 03-18-2012, 03:34 PM

Just wanted to know if anyone else could chime in if the grips are original to this particular Luger it would be much appreciated it!

padredan · 03-18-2012, 04:08 PM

are they numbred?, as far as shooting it, go for it ,just use the right ammo, we all pretty much agree on ww white box or american eagle, both of my lugers are just as rare and all original and i shoot them. enjoy your find.

lugerholsterrepair · 03-18-2012, 04:23 PM

Brandon, Untill further notice I wouldn't worry that your grips are fake. They show all the charecteristics of good Krieghoff grips and none of being fake so far...

I have to disagree with the good Padre..He is welcome to spend his money any way he wants but shooting an all matching pistol like yours is inviting disaster. One broken numbered extractor or holdopen and the value is diminished considerably. Find yourself a shooter if it's something you want to run a lot of rounds through. Then you can feel comfortable if an extractor breaks that it is no problem to simply replace it.
All matching Lugers are not something to abuse in my opinion.
Jerry

Kohaku2416 · 03-18-2012, 05:27 PM

Yeah I agree with you, I don't plan to shoot it now after hearing about the numbers being all matching.. last night before I went to bed I went ahead and re oiled the gun and greased up all the rails. From now on it's gonna just stay in the safe and occasionally be brought out to show as a conversation piece. I was looking at possibly looking for one of the R guns Russian Capture Lugers I saw for around 699 as a shooter.. But I am still debating.

Kohaku2416 · 03-18-2012, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padredan

are they numbred?, as far as shooting it, go for it ,just use the right ammo, we all pretty much agree on ww white box or american eagle, both of my lugers are just as rare and all original and i shoot them. enjoy your find.

From what I could tell no they aren't numbered when I removed them last night to clean the frame.. the only thing on the grips are the screw holes in the center as shown in the pics.

alanint · 03-18-2012, 05:39 PM

Bakelite Grips were never numbered.

Kohaku2416 · 03-18-2012, 05:57 PM

Yeah that's what I thought.. I been reading up on Lugers on Phoenix investments for like two days in a row now...lol

lugerholsterrepair · 03-18-2012, 06:03 PM

Brandon, Keep reading! Plenty of info out there..

Ron Wood · 03-18-2012, 07:08 PM

Brandon,
From what I can see, the value of the grips is a substantial portion of what you paid for the gun. Just the icing on the cake. Good for you (and thank you for not shooting it

)

padredan · 03-18-2012, 09:04 PM

Brandon, listen to the experts on here, not an old fool like me, they know what they are doing, you can learn a ton from them. Besides i use to jump out of prefectly good airplanes or sometimes was helped out. Great looking luger, again congrats

alvin · 03-19-2012, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kohaku2416

Yeah that's what I thought.. I been reading up on Lugers on Phoenix investments for like two days in a row now...lol

PIA's marketing is very strong.

One of their guns listed on GB got very good offer, if owner had listed it him/herself, it's sold. But owner probably won't have this type of offer.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=277436050

lugerholsterrepair · 03-19-2012, 11:23 AM

Brandon..Check out the photo's on this eBay offering.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-Era-Ger...item4cff516856

03-17-2012, 05:51 PM	#25
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Brandon, Thanks for the pics..The Krieghoff grips look authentic to me with the threaded screw holes..I am sure someone will come along and authenticate them if that's possible with these photo's. The .45 is a Union Switch & Signal Brandon was telling me about. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

03-17-2012, 07:19 PM	#27
TheRomanhistorian User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 301 Thanks: 170 Thanked 88 Times in 64 Posts	Brandon, what a lovely find! Nice work and for a good price, too. I think you have many of us envious! Well, I'm envious (at the very least). __________________ Michael Nos morituri te salutant - Supposed saying of the gladiators to the emperor ('We, who are about to die, salute you.') 'We are the lantern bearers, my friend; for us to keep something burning, to carry what light we can forward into the darkness and the wind' - From Rosemary Sutcliff's The Lantern Bearers

03-18-2012, 04:08 PM	#30
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	are they numbred?, as far as shooting it, go for it ,just use the right ammo, we all pretty much agree on ww white box or american eagle, both of my lugers are just as rare and all original and i shoot them. enjoy your find. __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

03-18-2012, 04:23 PM	#31
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Brandon, Untill further notice I wouldn't worry that your grips are fake. They show all the charecteristics of good Krieghoff grips and none of being fake so far... I have to disagree with the good Padre..He is welcome to spend his money any way he wants but shooting an all matching pistol like yours is inviting disaster. One broken numbered extractor or holdopen and the value is diminished considerably. Find yourself a shooter if it's something you want to run a lot of rounds through. Then you can feel comfortable if an extractor breaks that it is no problem to simply replace it. All matching Lugers are not something to abuse in my opinion. Jerry __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

03-18-2012, 06:03 PM	#36
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Brandon, Keep reading! Plenty of info out there.. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

03-17-2012, 04:13 PM	#21
Kohaku2416 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Muncie Indiana Posts: 124 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	More pics upon request for Jerry!

03-17-2012, 04:30 PM	#22
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Brandon, Your grips alone are worth about $300.

03-17-2012, 04:51 PM	#23
Kohaku2416 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Muncie Indiana Posts: 124 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Courtesy to Jerry

03-17-2012, 05:04 PM	#24
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	It's like a small lottery winning. This excellent Mauser Parabellum was sold lower than a rusty 1965 Chinese made tokarev on gunbroker.com a week ago (sold by armsblue.com, I lost the link).

03-17-2012, 06:59 PM	#26
Kohaku2416 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Muncie Indiana Posts: 124 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Thanks Jerry! Yeah I would love to hear if the grips are authentic or not. I mean they look too new for me given the condition they are in. Whoever owned this gun took really good care of it... and yeah I am still jealous about that US&S!

03-17-2012, 07:27 PM	#28
Kohaku2416 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Muncie Indiana Posts: 124 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Thank you I don't wanna sound like I am bragging but I feel pretty good about myself being this is my second attempt at buying a Luger.. my first involved a 1920 commercial 30. Luger that I got for around $600ish for just the gun and one mag labeled Germany.This was my first Luger which I sold shortly after getting it because I couldn't find any ammo for it...now I got a Luger I got ammo for but I don't wanna shoot because of the value! >_< My first Luger.. a 1920 DWM commercial in 7.65mm Luger.

03-18-2012, 03:34 PM	#29
Kohaku2416 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Muncie Indiana Posts: 124 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Just wanted to know if anyone else could chime in if the grips are original to this particular Luger it would be much appreciated it!

03-18-2012, 05:27 PM	#32
Kohaku2416 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Muncie Indiana Posts: 124 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Yeah I agree with you, I don't plan to shoot it now after hearing about the numbers being all matching.. last night before I went to bed I went ahead and re oiled the gun and greased up all the rails. From now on it's gonna just stay in the safe and occasionally be brought out to show as a conversation piece. I was looking at possibly looking for one of the R guns Russian Capture Lugers I saw for around 699 as a shooter.. But I am still debating.

03-18-2012, 05:39 PM	#34
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Bakelite Grips were never numbered.

03-18-2012, 05:57 PM	#35
Kohaku2416 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Muncie Indiana Posts: 124 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Yeah that's what I thought.. I been reading up on Lugers on Phoenix investments for like two days in a row now...lol

03-18-2012, 07:08 PM	#37
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	Brandon, From what I can see, the value of the grips is a substantial portion of what you paid for the gun. Just the icing on the cake. Good for you (and thank you for not shooting it ) __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-18-2012, 09:04 PM	#38
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	Brandon, listen to the experts on here, not an old fool like me, they know what they are doing, you can learn a ton from them. Besides i use to jump out of prefectly good airplanes or sometimes was helped out. Great looking luger, again congrats __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

03-19-2012, 11:23 AM	#40
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Brandon..Check out the photo's on this eBay offering. http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-Era-Ger...item4cff516856 __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."