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Unread 02-16-2019, 11:07 AM   #21
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I would not call the magazine a "forced" match, it is entirely correct for a reworked police pistol- it even has the "dove/o" police acceptance. It is not the "original" magazine- but then the pistol has been through a complete "police" overhaul!

I agree, but somehow still tend to value original (OEM) WW1 parts over the later substituted police parts. Otherwise we could take it to the extreme and boast that a Luger bears "original Russian capture rework numbering".
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Unread 02-16-2019, 11:19 AM   #22
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I would agree with the higher end estimate of $1400 that you've been given. That would be a value for someone interested in collecting this genre of pistols.

I see a "20" marked on the firing pin, and the flute cut looks like a police modification not a later Mauser fluted firing pin.
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Unread 02-16-2019, 11:41 AM   #23
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This pistol should be viewed and valued for what it is:

A correct nazi-era police pistol based on a 1918 Erfurt military P08.

It stopped being a military P08 when it was reassigned to the police and any attempts to compare it to 1918 standards for the army are pointless in this case.
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Puma, With the few questionable mismatched parts (add force matched rear toggle link) which prevent your Police PO8 from being FACTORY MATCHING, this would normally keep your luger's value below $1K, but with the presence of police installed sear safety, cut-off mag safety and unit markings, these would raise the value by up to $1500 to the right buyer. TH
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I can not tell but it looks like it still has the mag safety disconnect installed. A picture of the left side without the grip would be nice. Be careful about removing that grip.
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I would not call the magazine a "forced" match, it is entirely correct for a reworked police pistol- it even has the "dove/o" police acceptance. It is not the "original" magazine- but then the pistol has been through a complete "police" overhaul!

I agree, but somehow still tend to value original (OEM) WW1 parts over the later substituted police parts. Otherwise we could take it to the extreme and boast that a Luger bears "original Russian capture rework numbering".
Just my $.02
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Well, RC's and Vopo's are variations- and becoming collectable in their own right. Another 2 cents worth.
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Puma, With the few questionable mismatched parts (add force matched rear toggle link) which prevent your Police PO8 from being FACTORY MATCHING, this would normally keep your luger's value below $1K, but with the presence of police installed sear safety, cut-off mag safety and unit markings, these would raise the value by up to $1500 to the right buyer. TH
Tom,
what makes you say the rear toggle is "force" matched?
Looks like a clean "20" in the one picture I found.
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I do not think any one gave the unit mark to you, I believe it to be (sp?) Schutzpoleizi Weisbaden 1st district 584 weapon#. Books are not handy to verify at the moment. John
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I do not think any one gave the unit mark to you, I believe it to be (sp?) Schutzpoleizi Weisbaden 1st district 584 weapon#. Books are not handy to verify at the moment. John
The "first district" was the city of Frankfurt a.m.
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