Inherited 1918 Erfurt with police holster and two mags - Page 3

OBXmom · 11-12-2018, 12:49 AM

Thank you Don and Jerry! I'll keep you posted!

OBXmom · 11-12-2018, 05:07 PM

Meet John S. Brundage from Stamford, CT. I've been able to piece together, his career in the millitary had a few different chapters.
He enlisted April 23, 1941in the Army. He was in Battery B 364 Field Artillery in Fort Bragg, NC.
In 1942 he was promoted to Corporal and transferred to Bakersfield, CA in the 64th Air Base Squadron. He attended officer training school and "served as an air reconnaissance officer for a battalion of 8" howitzers in the European Theater during the war."
We know he got out of the millitary around 1945 or 1946.
In 1950, under a stepped up mobilization program, he returned to service as Captain Jack Brundage, commanding officer of Battery "C", 192nd National Guard Division that went into federal service.
This is who brought the Luger back to the states.

lew1 · 11-12-2018, 06:37 PM

Jerry sent me an email, with a link to this thread.

My pistol is a luger that was converted to police use. The frame is dated 1917 and has naval markings on the real grip strap The toggle is DWM. The barrel is dated 1912. The pistol was renumbered to the serial # on the side of the chamber.

It belonged to my uncle (actually the husband of my aunt). He brought it back from WWII. In addition to the magazine, the front and back of the back strap is marked with 4 different unit numbers. After the war, when I was 8 (1946) he would show me the pistol and would speculate on the units it had been with. The marking on the back of the grip strap was a naval marking. A common and normal naval marking for navy lugers in 1917. One of the markings on on the front of the grip strap was U(with a umlate).68. He always wondered if it had been issued to a U boat sailor and how it did not go to the bottom of the ocean.

He spent time back then trying to figure out what units had the luger. We had many a long time talking about it. There was not much info available in the 40s and early 50s. In 1955, when I graduated from high school, he gave it to me as a graduation present. I disposed of it a few years ago.

lugerholsterrepair · 11-12-2018, 07:29 PM

Charlie, Thanks! So it's out there somewhere...?

lew1 · 11-12-2018, 09:18 PM

I hated to let it go, but I needed some cash so I disposed of about 15 pieces most of which were on the low end of condition. The pistol was not in the best condition as it showed considerable wear. But it will turn up again.

I guess when it comes down to it, I can't keep everything and there is a priority such as a cherry 3 corner cupboard made for my Great Grandmother's wedding by her father, or a chest of drawers with a marble top with a mirror that belonged to my wife's grandmother. Then there is this single shot muzzle loading pistol that will fit into a pocket that belonged to my grandfather and a 1917 Artillery Luger with a matching numbered stock, with all of the leather and a snail drum (only) that my wife gave me for our first anniversary. (And a bunch of other stuff.)

OBXmom · 11-12-2018, 09:38 PM

Thank you Charlie for all that info! I've been finding this research facinating. It sounds like your piece has a lengthy tale to tell. I can see how an uncle and nephew could spend hours speculating on its travels. Its interesting that the paths of these pieces have intersected once again.
I'm grateful that you contributed the photo to Don's book. Since we're not collectors, we're completely satisfied with that. Who knew it would later lead to a match up? Tuck our email address away, and if you ever hear from the purchaser, please pass it along. These pieces have crossed paths twice now, they say the third time is the charm. Maybe one day the spare magazine and this 100 year old Luger will be reunited.
Many Thanks,
Diane

Don M · 11-13-2018, 01:43 PM

Darn! This is the second time I've missed playing matchmaker!

OBXmom · 11-13-2018, 01:59 PM

Don,
Don't be too upset, now it means I have to buy your book!

Thank you for all your help. This forum was more helpful than I ever thought it would be. There is such a wealth of information here. But more surprising is the willingness and patience of everyone that took the time to respond.
Diane

lugerholsterrepair · 11-13-2018, 02:09 PM

I asked Charlie where it went and this is what he said. He sold it to a guy at a gun show table.

I am not sure but I think he mentioned that he lived south of Louisville - but it has been a long time. I could see it turning up at the National Gun Day show one of these days. I am not sure if I would recognize him any more though.

Charlie

Don M · 11-13-2018, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBXmom

Don,
Don't be too upset, now it means I have to buy your book!

Every cloud has a silver lining! I hope you enjoy the book.

DonVoigt · 11-13-2018, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBXmom

Don,
Don't be too upset, now it means I have to buy your book!

Thank you for all your help. This forum was more helpful than I ever thought it would be. There is such a wealth of information here. But more surprising is the willingness and patience of everyone that took the time to respond.
Diane

Be Careful!

Don M's book has been known to cause addiction to police luger collecting in folks with limited will power- such as myself.

It is a great book, along with Police Lugers by our other forum members Tinker and Gruber.

Don M · 11-14-2018, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBXmom

This has been such a needed distraction. My son deploys very soon to the sandbox, and I handle such things much better when I'm busy.

Diane, please thank your son for his service to our country and you and your husband for your sacrifices, as well. I am sure I am joined by the majority of members of this forum.

Also, I enjoyed our joint research!

11-12-2018, 05:07 PM	#42
OBXmom User Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 20 Thanks: 24 Thanked 34 Times in 14 Posts	Meet John S. Brundage from Stamford, CT. I've been able to piece together, his career in the millitary had a few different chapters. He enlisted April 23, 1941in the Army. He was in Battery B 364 Field Artillery in Fort Bragg, NC. In 1942 he was promoted to Corporal and transferred to Bakersfield, CA in the 64th Air Base Squadron. He attended officer training school and "served as an air reconnaissance officer for a battalion of 8" howitzers in the European Theater during the war." We know he got out of the millitary around 1945 or 1946. In 1950, under a stepped up mobilization program, he returned to service as Captain Jack Brundage, commanding officer of Battery "C", 192nd National Guard Division that went into federal service. This is who brought the Luger back to the states. Attached Thumbnails

11-12-2018, 06:37 PM	#43
lew1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,108 Thanks: 82 Thanked 204 Times in 112 Posts	Jerry sent me an email, with a link to this thread. My pistol is a luger that was converted to police use. The frame is dated 1917 and has naval markings on the real grip strap The toggle is DWM. The barrel is dated 1912. The pistol was renumbered to the serial # on the side of the chamber. It belonged to my uncle (actually the husband of my aunt). He brought it back from WWII. In addition to the magazine, the front and back of the back strap is marked with 4 different unit numbers. After the war, when I was 8 (1946) he would show me the pistol and would speculate on the units it had been with. The marking on the back of the grip strap was a naval marking. A common and normal naval marking for navy lugers in 1917. One of the markings on on the front of the grip strap was U(with a umlate).68. He always wondered if it had been issued to a U boat sailor and how it did not go to the bottom of the ocean. He spent time back then trying to figure out what units had the luger. We had many a long time talking about it. There was not much info available in the 40s and early 50s. In 1955, when I graduated from high school, he gave it to me as a graduation present. I disposed of it a few years ago. __________________ charlie

11-12-2018, 07:29 PM	#44
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Charlie, Thanks! So it's out there somewhere...? __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

11-12-2018, 09:18 PM	#45
lew1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,108 Thanks: 82 Thanked 204 Times in 112 Posts	I hated to let it go, but I needed some cash so I disposed of about 15 pieces most of which were on the low end of condition. The pistol was not in the best condition as it showed considerable wear. But it will turn up again. I guess when it comes down to it, I can't keep everything and there is a priority such as a cherry 3 corner cupboard made for my Great Grandmother's wedding by her father, or a chest of drawers with a marble top with a mirror that belonged to my wife's grandmother. Then there is this single shot muzzle loading pistol that will fit into a pocket that belonged to my grandfather and a 1917 Artillery Luger with a matching numbered stock, with all of the leather and a snail drum (only) that my wife gave me for our first anniversary. (And a bunch of other stuff.) __________________ charlie

11-13-2018, 01:43 PM	#47
Don M Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 67 Thanked 292 Times in 191 Posts	Darn! This is the second time I've missed playing matchmaker! __________________ Regards, Don [email protected] Author of History Writ in Steel: German Police Markings 1900-1936 http://www.historywritinsteel.com

11-12-2018, 12:49 AM	#41
OBXmom User Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 20 Thanks: 24 Thanked 34 Times in 14 Posts	Thank you Don and Jerry! I'll keep you posted!

11-12-2018, 09:38 PM	#46
OBXmom User Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 20 Thanks: 24 Thanked 34 Times in 14 Posts	Thank you Charlie for all that info! I've been finding this research facinating. It sounds like your piece has a lengthy tale to tell. I can see how an uncle and nephew could spend hours speculating on its travels. Its interesting that the paths of these pieces have intersected once again. I'm grateful that you contributed the photo to Don's book. Since we're not collectors, we're completely satisfied with that. Who knew it would later lead to a match up? Tuck our email address away, and if you ever hear from the purchaser, please pass it along. These pieces have crossed paths twice now, they say the third time is the charm. Maybe one day the spare magazine and this 100 year old Luger will be reunited. Many Thanks, Diane

11-13-2018, 01:59 PM	#48
OBXmom User Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 20 Thanks: 24 Thanked 34 Times in 14 Posts	Don, Don't be too upset, now it means I have to buy your book! Thank you for all your help. This forum was more helpful than I ever thought it would be. There is such a wealth of information here. But more surprising is the willingness and patience of everyone that took the time to respond. Diane

11-13-2018, 02:09 PM	#49
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	I asked Charlie where it went and this is what he said. He sold it to a guy at a gun show table. I am not sure but I think he mentioned that he lived south of Louisville - but it has been a long time. I could see it turning up at the National Gun Day show one of these days. I am not sure if I would recognize him any more though. Charlie __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."