Pretty Pathetic state of Affairs

Ron Smith · 01-27-2008, 10:19 AM

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article....&in_page_id=34

policeluger · 01-27-2008, 12:34 PM

Two of my cousins are London cops, we talk often, and I can not believe how anti gun they are, and they can not understand my CCW or want to hunt/shoot and collect guns.....but we are still friends....

lugerholsterrepair · 01-27-2008, 12:40 PM

One of my cousins is a rabid Hillery supporting Democrat. We are not Friends...Jerry Burney

Navy · 01-27-2008, 01:19 PM

I would be interested in Tac's take on this lunacy.

Tom A

drbuster · 01-27-2008, 01:52 PM

Jerry, I presume that your spelling of "Hillary" reflects your opinion of her as a world leader and probable front running candidate for president. All I can say is that I agree with you!

lugerholsterrepair · 01-27-2008, 02:40 PM

Herb, Sorry for the mispelling...Hitlary was what I meant!
Tom, What could tac's take on it be but utter amazement and frustration at the bloody lunacy of the politico's in GB?
What we should be doing is trying to find a better way to slow down the growth of the pink mold...it would be the green thing to do!
Jerry

tenbears · 01-27-2008, 09:53 PM

I spent three years in England working as a DOD civilian on our Air Force bases (1976/1979), RAF Lakenheath, RAF Mildenhall, RAF Fetlwell, and RAF Alconberry. At the time anybody could own a shotgun. I remember shooting trap and sheet at some of the bases gun clubs along side of British folks who could shoot there too. I found it interesting that a lot of British folks used black powder shotguns. So a round of sheet could take awhile. Anyway the point I'm getting to. Was when I got ready to come back to the states. I had more problems on our end trying to ship back a shotgun I had. And ended up selling it to a Air Force servicemen.

Ron Smith · 01-27-2008, 10:35 PM

I didn't intend for this to be a one up between our two countries.

The gun laws and restrictions here are often as asinine if not more so than in Great Britain or elsewhere. In fact, tac and I discussed and compared the laws between the U.S. and G.B. fairly extensively during his recent visit here.

Certain handguns to be legal in G.B., are required to have a rod attached to the butt of the grip to make them an overall legal length. That same handgun here in the states could be classified as being a stocked (illegal) hand gun by merely attaching a butt plate of some sort to the rod.

He can't own a .357 hand gun, however he does legally own a .308 Tactical Sniper rifle.

During the assault rifle ban imposed by daddy Bush, we couldn't buy any assault rifle type firearm that had a Falsh Supressor, Bayonet Lug and detachable magazine with a capacity of more than 10 rds. You could however own one with two or fewer of these features, but not all three.

Who lays awake at night, or sits behind a desk picking their nose and thinking up this crap.

And before this goes off subject and gets political. George Bush Sr. (conservative) got the assault rifle ban passed. Bill Clinton(liberal) signed the bill into law. Sarah Brady(conservative) wrote and got the Brady Bill signed into law. So both sides have and do share responsibility in this bonehead crap. Even "W" was against letting the assault rifle ban expire.

davidkachel · 01-28-2008, 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by policeluger
Two of my cousins are London cops, we talk often, and I can not believe how anti gun they are, and they can not understand my CCW or want to hunt/shoot and collect guns.....but we are still friends....

Simple, a far greater percentage of any population can be brainwashed than cannot be brainwashed. And, the less free a person is, the more likely he is to be convinced that he is free.

davidkachel · 01-28-2008, 04:59 PM

Once you reach a point where you can discuss what a government will or will not allow you to own, you have already lost. In both countries (UK and US) we are talking about what our respective governments still "allow" us to have. That's chapter 12. Freedom was lost way back in chapter 2.

Zamo · 01-29-2008, 12:46 AM

"Freedom was lost way back in chapter 2."

Maybe yours...

Molon Labe!

davidkachel · 01-29-2008, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zamo
"Freedom was lost way back in chapter 2."

Maybe yours...

Molon Labe!

Precisely the reason we have lost our freedom. Hardly anyone has noticed. And most wouldn't care if they did notice.

01-27-2008, 10:19 AM	#1
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01-27-2008, 12:40 PM	#3
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01-27-2008, 02:40 PM	#6
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Herb, Sorry for the mispelling...Hitlary was what I meant! Tom, What could tac's take on it be but utter amazement and frustration at the bloody lunacy of the politico's in GB? What we should be doing is trying to find a better way to slow down the growth of the pink mold...it would be the green thing to do! Jerry __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-27-2008, 10:35 PM	#8
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	I didn't intend for this to be a one up between our two countries. The gun laws and restrictions here are often as asinine if not more so than in Great Britain or elsewhere. In fact, tac and I discussed and compared the laws between the U.S. and G.B. fairly extensively during his recent visit here. Certain handguns to be legal in G.B., are required to have a rod attached to the butt of the grip to make them an overall legal length. That same handgun here in the states could be classified as being a stocked (illegal) hand gun by merely attaching a butt plate of some sort to the rod. He can't own a .357 hand gun, however he does legally own a .308 Tactical Sniper rifle. During the assault rifle ban imposed by daddy Bush, we couldn't buy any assault rifle type firearm that had a Falsh Supressor, Bayonet Lug and detachable magazine with a capacity of more than 10 rds. You could however own one with two or fewer of these features, but not all three. Who lays awake at night, or sits behind a desk picking their nose and thinking up this crap. And before this goes off subject and gets political. George Bush Sr. (conservative) got the assault rifle ban passed. Bill Clinton(liberal) signed the bill into law. Sarah Brady(conservative) wrote and got the Brady Bill signed into law. So both sides have and do share responsibility in this bonehead crap. Even "W" was against letting the assault rifle ban expire. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

01-28-2008, 04:59 PM	#10
davidkachel User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 784 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Once you reach a point where you can discuss what a government will or will not allow you to own, you have already lost. In both countries (UK and US) we are talking about what our respective governments still "allow" us to have. That's chapter 12. Freedom was lost way back in chapter 2. __________________ A heroin habit would be cheaper.

01-27-2008, 12:34 PM	#2
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Two of my cousins are London cops, we talk often, and I can not believe how anti gun they are, and they can not understand my CCW or want to hunt/shoot and collect guns.....but we are still friends....

01-27-2008, 01:19 PM	#4
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	I would be interested in Tac's take on this lunacy. Tom A

01-27-2008, 01:52 PM	#5
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Jerry, I presume that your spelling of "Hillary" reflects your opinion of her as a world leader and probable front running candidate for president. All I can say is that I agree with you!

01-27-2008, 09:53 PM	#7
tenbears User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 370 Thanks: 3 Thanked 26 Times in 15 Posts	I spent three years in England working as a DOD civilian on our Air Force bases (1976/1979), RAF Lakenheath, RAF Mildenhall, RAF Fetlwell, and RAF Alconberry. At the time anybody could own a shotgun. I remember shooting trap and sheet at some of the bases gun clubs along side of British folks who could shoot there too. I found it interesting that a lot of British folks used black powder shotguns. So a round of sheet could take awhile. Anyway the point I'm getting to. Was when I got ready to come back to the states. I had more problems on our end trying to ship back a shotgun I had. And ended up selling it to a Air Force servicemen.

01-29-2008, 12:46 AM	#11
Zamo User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Washington State Posts: 142 Thanks: 4 Thanked 13 Times in 9 Posts	"Freedom was lost way back in chapter 2." Maybe yours... Molon Labe! __________________ <INSERT WITTY SAYING HERE> My collection: http://home.comcast.net/~gunspotz/guns.htm