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Unread 09-13-2006, 11:35 PM   #1
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My father recently died, and to pay off his bills we need to start selling off his gun collection. We've got a reputable dealer we know we can trust, but our biggest asset and worry is a WWII Luger that my great-grandfather took off of a Nazi officer. The finish is original and in great shape, and this is what my mom said about the markings, history, and accoutrements:

Nazi gun and holster that Irvin took off a Nazi officer that he had captured in Berlin (he was with the us army group that Russia handed over to
the US in the first day or so after the soviets took the capital)

Black leather holster containing gun and clip.
Stamped on the holster are the initials jme and the nazi eagle with a ball/globe in its talons with the swastika in it (I'll call it the nazi stamp).
Stamped on the upper right side of the holster is P 0 8

The Gun (Was told it was disabled befire Irvin brought it back)

the slide that cocks the gun has a crown stamped on it with 42 FRFURT below it

Left side of gun has 6888 stamped on it a 37 and the words Gesichert

Right side of gun has 3 nazi stamps...one small and two tiny stamps side by
sde with the number 135 stamped under the 2 tiny stamps.

ALso taken from the Nazi officer was an Iron Cross with 1939 stamped on the
front and 1813 stamped on the back; as well as various ribbons, lapels pins,
and a red arm band with a swastika on it.

Please if anyone could tell me what we have I will worship the ground you walk on for saving our butts! If anyone has an idea of what this is worth, that would also be appreciated too. We do have an interested buyer; we've just got to name a price. We just don't know a damn thing about guns.

The Others

Duomatic Reloader
Model 375
made by? Posness-Warren INC in Idaho
Made in the early to mid 70's
Used very little

Dan Wesson .357 Magnum Arms 10 in barrel
Serial # 62411
Monson Mass. USA
Used very little

WWII
Czech
Pistole Modell 27 Kal. 7.65

on top of barrel
Bohmische Waffenfabrik A.G. in Prag

on handle there is a C with a Z inside with a circle around the whole letters
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Unread 09-14-2006, 04:58 AM   #2
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First I would like to condolence for the loss of your father, I hope the financial part work out for you and your family.
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To answer your question in a good way, itâ??s very helpful with pictures of the gun.

From what you told, the Luger is an Erfurt witch could make it quite desired. But can you see if the last two digits in the serial number is the same numbers as written on most small parts?
The parts should have the number 88, if not; the gun would have been put together from various Lugers. That would lower the value.. You also might want to check the inside of the grips for #88 or other markings + the bottom of the magazine for 6888.
There are some very helpful members is this forum, with impressing eyesight.

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Unread 09-14-2006, 08:08 AM   #3
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sorry for the loss of your father,
You should post some photos or if you live close by in the great State of Florida,
I'll be happy to look at your gun and post pics for you if you like.

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Unread 09-14-2006, 09:48 AM   #4
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One source of information about the value of your guns would be gunbroker.com and gunsamerica.com these websites are auctions of firearms and they have search capabilities so you can search for the same types of guns that you have and see what the going prices are...

Let me add my condolences on the loss of your father. It has been less than 2 months since I lost mine... I know what you are going through on handling his estate...

now some personal advice... I don't know what your financial position is, but unless it is desparate, I would recommend that you not rush into disposal of your father's gun collection. Especially those that are war trophies... while they will lead to a quick influx of cash, someday you may regret that you have disposed of them. They are part of your father's personal history and some day when your grandchildren ask you what did grandpa do during WW2, you will be able to show them the treasure of his heirlooms from when he defended this country... Just my $.02 as the sone of a WW2 vet, who has just experienced this. My oldest grandson who lives 2000 miles away got to meet his great grandfather only days before he passed away... in the aftermath of this passing were many questions about his life... you should have seen his eyes when I showed his the Luger my father captured and brought home... it is a legacy I could never bring myself to part with even if I didn't like guns.

If you tell us where you are located, maybe we have a member in the nearby area who can advise you in person...

Good luck on whatever decision you make.
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