42 1940 with matching mag

Grayrock · 01-09-2007, 01:28 AM

New here.

Just acquired this Luger from my Dad. This thread: http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...threadid=15388 by Linda has several pictures. Mine looks pretty much identical in condition (maybe a bit nicer) and the proof marks are the same as hers. Mine is marked "42" on the toggle and "1940" over the chamber. Under the barrel it has a script "C". What other info would you need to identify this gun?

Edward Tinker · 01-09-2007, 01:33 AM

welcome to the forum!

Depends on what you are trying to find out?

Serial number is needed to place an approximate date, and "it looks like another" is not always true... Proofs can be different etc..

Date is the 1940, the 42 is Mauser manufacturer....

Close ups would be needed to see if it has been reblued ...

Appears to be a nice 1911 too....

Ed

Grayrock · 01-09-2007, 01:57 AM

6617 is #. Proofs are identical to hers- same mark and same numbers (655) and same location. I'll try to get a decent photo- but my skill in getting close-ups is not very sophisticated.

Frank · 01-09-2007, 08:24 AM

Hi George, your 1940, code 42 Mauser Luger, S/N 6617c was completed about April 1940. All 1940 Military Mauser Lugers were marked with an eagle-over-655 on the right side of the receiver. These are intermediate and final inspection marks also known as Waffenamt (Weapon Office) Marks. To the right of these marks is the eagle-over-swastika or proof marks. Hope this helps!

Welcome to the Luger Forum!!!

Grayrock · 01-09-2007, 09:53 AM

I'll try to take some pictures. What would be most useful in determining shooter/collector status and approximate value?

Edward Tinker · 01-09-2007, 12:38 PM

Full left, full right, then some assorted close ups, of proofs on the right, top, a few others. Then we can see how sharp edges are, if proofs are smudged, if color looks right.

Grayrock · 01-09-2007, 01:26 PM

Grayrock · 01-10-2007, 01:18 AM

Deer camp is this weekend. Should I shoot the snot out of my latest acquisition?

c3006 · 01-10-2007, 09:19 AM

I think I would leave the snot it this one till i could make sure it has not been refinished it looks good to me. clint

Dante Di Pietro Jr. · 01-10-2007, 09:44 AM

I agree with clint, if that is the original finish I would not shoot it a lot. I just paid big bucks for a 1939/40 in minty condition with two matching mags. I would never shoot it unless someone was trying to steal it from me.
Dante

Grayrock · 01-10-2007, 10:05 AM

As far as I know it is the original finish. My dad had it for at least 45 years and never did anything to it. The story I got was that he won it in a poker game in college. That was about 1955. He's had it ever since. The monetary value is not important to me. I would never sell this- but am curious what it could be worth. There is a big "but", however.

pipeman45 · 01-10-2007, 03:20 PM

Try to find out if one of our members lives close to you and would look at it for a hands on evaluation. Pic's are good,books are good, but nothing beats hands on.

lugercollector · 01-10-2007, 07:09 PM

Hi...Value would run $1000-$1700 depending on who is buying....Dealer or private sale ...IMO

Grayrock · 01-11-2007, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Then we can see how sharp edges are, if proofs are smudged, if color looks right.

So were pics good enough you could see the edges, proofs and color?

Also- is there anybody in Central Texas (like San Antonio) that would be willing to look at it?

Edward Tinker · 01-11-2007, 01:29 AM

gray, it looks awfully nice to me... pop off a few caps and get it out of your system and see if it works, but I think I'd refrain from shooting a case of winchester through her...

If you want a shooter, i have a 6 inch I'd trade you

Ed

Dante Di Pietro Jr. · 01-11-2007, 09:08 AM

Hello, I would check the bore before shooting. Clean any crap out that might be in there, dried grease, spiders etc.
Dante

75BShooter · 01-11-2007, 05:42 PM

Grayrock, I couldn't pull up the pictures you referred to of the 39 Luger Linda had. However I was fortunate to purchase from Linda that Luger. After getting it and taking it completely apart I find it hard to believe it had ever been fired, although I know it must have been. Mike Krause agreed it had never been reblued and was in excellent condition. It only had a very slight wear make on the left side of the muzzle from holster ware. It is so clean I don't feel I'll ever shoot any rounds through it. It also came with an original numbered mag.
Tim

Grayrock · 01-23-2007, 01:05 PM

Cleaned it up as best I could without any disassembly. Then loaded her up and used it as part of a 21 gun salute to my dad. A friend looked at it and said he thinks parts were reblued. I'll never part with it- besides, my dad engraved his name and ID number on it.

Grayrock · 01-24-2007, 01:08 AM

My sentiments exactly.

01-09-2007, 01:28 AM	#1
Grayrock User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas- by Gawd Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	42 1940 with matching mag New here. Just acquired this Luger from my Dad. This thread: http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...threadid=15388 by Linda has several pictures. Mine looks pretty much identical in condition (maybe a bit nicer) and the proof marks are the same as hers. Mine is marked "42" on the toggle and "1940" over the chamber. Under the barrel it has a script "C". What other info would you need to identify this gun? Attached Thumbnails

01-09-2007, 01:33 AM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	welcome to the forum! Depends on what you are trying to find out? Serial number is needed to place an approximate date, and "it looks like another" is not always true... Proofs can be different etc.. Date is the 1940, the 42 is Mauser manufacturer.... Close ups would be needed to see if it has been reblued ... Appears to be a nice 1911 too.... Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-09-2007, 12:38 PM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	Full left, full right, then some assorted close ups, of proofs on the right, top, a few others. Then we can see how sharp edges are, if proofs are smudged, if color looks right. __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-10-2007, 09:19 AM	#9
c3006 User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: east tn Posts: 526 Thanks: 5 Thanked 12 Times in 5 Posts	I think I would leave the snot it this one till i could make sure it has not been refinished it looks good to me. clint __________________ Men Accustomed unto thier arms and their liberties will never endure the yoke. James Harrington 1776

01-10-2007, 03:20 PM	#12
pipeman45 User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kentucky Posts: 539 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Try to find out if one of our members lives close to you and would look at it for a hands on evaluation. Pic's are good,books are good, but nothing beats hands on. __________________ Dave

01-09-2007, 01:57 AM	#3
Grayrock User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas- by Gawd Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	6617 is #. Proofs are identical to hers- same mark and same numbers (655) and same location. I'll try to get a decent photo- but my skill in getting close-ups is not very sophisticated.

01-09-2007, 08:24 AM	#4
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Hi George, your 1940, code 42 Mauser Luger, S/N 6617c was completed about April 1940. All 1940 Military Mauser Lugers were marked with an eagle-over-655 on the right side of the receiver. These are intermediate and final inspection marks also known as Waffenamt (Weapon Office) Marks. To the right of these marks is the eagle-over-swastika or proof marks. Hope this helps! Welcome to the Luger Forum!!!

01-09-2007, 09:53 AM	#5
Grayrock User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas- by Gawd Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'll try to take some pictures. What would be most useful in determining shooter/collector status and approximate value?

01-09-2007, 01:26 PM	#7
Grayrock User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas- by Gawd Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

01-10-2007, 01:18 AM	#8
Grayrock User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas- by Gawd Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Deer camp is this weekend. Should I shoot the snot out of my latest acquisition?

01-10-2007, 09:44 AM	#10
Dante Di Pietro Jr. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Maine Posts: 73 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I agree with clint, if that is the original finish I would not shoot it a lot. I just paid big bucks for a 1939/40 in minty condition with two matching mags. I would never shoot it unless someone was trying to steal it from me. Dante

01-10-2007, 10:05 AM	#11
Grayrock User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas- by Gawd Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	As far as I know it is the original finish. My dad had it for at least 45 years and never did anything to it. The story I got was that he won it in a poker game in college. That was about 1955. He's had it ever since. The monetary value is not important to me. I would never sell this- but am curious what it could be worth. There is a big "but", however.

01-10-2007, 07:09 PM	#13
lugercollector Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: canada Posts: 322 Thanks: 0 Thanked 25 Times in 15 Posts	Hi...Value would run $1000-$1700 depending on who is buying....Dealer or private sale ...IMO

01-11-2007, 01:29 AM	#15
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	gray, it looks awfully nice to me... pop off a few caps and get it out of your system and see if it works, but I think I'd refrain from shooting a case of winchester through her... If you want a shooter, i have a 6 inch I'd trade you Ed

01-11-2007, 09:08 AM	#16
Dante Di Pietro Jr. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Maine Posts: 73 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello, I would check the bore before shooting. Clean any crap out that might be in there, dried grease, spiders etc. Dante

01-11-2007, 05:42 PM	#17
75BShooter User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: S.F. Bay Area Posts: 42 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Grayrock, I couldn't pull up the pictures you referred to of the 39 Luger Linda had. However I was fortunate to purchase from Linda that Luger. After getting it and taking it completely apart I find it hard to believe it had ever been fired, although I know it must have been. Mike Krause agreed it had never been reblued and was in excellent condition. It only had a very slight wear make on the left side of the muzzle from holster ware. It is so clean I don't feel I'll ever shoot any rounds through it. It also came with an original numbered mag. Tim

01-23-2007, 01:05 PM	#18
Grayrock User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas- by Gawd Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Cleaned it up as best I could without any disassembly. Then loaded her up and used it as part of a 21 gun salute to my dad. A friend looked at it and said he thinks parts were reblued. I'll never part with it- besides, my dad engraved his name and ID number on it.

01-24-2007, 01:08 AM	#19
Grayrock User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas- by Gawd Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My sentiments exactly.