BYF Grips

luckyluke77 · 01-23-2007, 09:38 PM

Are there serial numbers on byf grips. i know there are none on the black plastic grips but what about the wooden ones. Does it make a difference whether it is 1941 or 1942. thanks

Edward Tinker · 01-23-2007, 10:07 PM

welcome,

I do not know, but there is info on the FAQ:

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...threadid=13121

tracyp · 01-23-2007, 11:26 PM

Yes, the grips are serialized. I have a 41 and 42, and both have the last two digits of the serial number on the inside of the grips.

Tracy

luckyluke77 · 01-23-2007, 11:39 PM

thanks. from reading the referred to answers it appears that byf 1942 wood grips should be stamped. however i am not clear as to what 1941 wood grips should have or not have. further refernce to a suffix is made. does that refer to the scripted letter under the serial number on the front of the frame below the barrel and receiver. lastly reference is made to b-block and n-block. what does that refer to. thanks

Frank · 01-24-2007, 08:30 AM

Hi Lucky, welcome!! Yes, the wooden grips for both 41 and 42 byf Lugers should have the last two digits of the serial numbered stamped on the inside surface of the grips (just as Tracy said)!!!

The term "block" refers to the suffix letted stamped on the front of the frame. Each letter represents about 10,000 pistols or blocks of pistols (actually, numbers from 1 to 9,999). So a n-block refers to pistol serial numbers in the range from 1n to 9999n.

Hope this helps

byf43 · 01-29-2007, 03:05 PM

Funny how I find this thread just as I were thinking along the same lines

So to sum up; all byfs are serialed (wood grips)? They didn't stop at some point in 1942?

Are there supposed to be WaA marks in the grips also? My impression is no?

Frank · 01-29-2007, 05:04 PM

Mikkel, all byf wooden grips should be serialized to the pistol.

Some "official" replacement grips were made with E/655 and some with E/135 Waffenamt Marks, but rarely, if any, were both Waffenamt and serial marked!!

byf43 · 01-30-2007, 01:22 AM

Thanks! Not knowing this for sure had been annoying me for some time.

Dante Di Pietro Jr. · 01-30-2007, 01:32 AM

what about 1940 1939/42 grips, are they supposed to be numbered?

Frank · 01-30-2007, 08:31 AM

Dante, the 1939 Code 42 grips are not numbered in almost every case I have seen. The 1940 Code 42 grips are numbered in almost every case I have seen.

Hope this helps!!

Dante Di Pietro Jr. · 01-30-2007, 09:42 AM

Thanks Frank, I have a 1939 and the grips are unnumbered, I was really worried because it is minty with two matching mags, mint original grips, paid $3000 came with minty holster and tool. Thats the most Ive ever paid for a luger I think. The condition of the rig and the two mags just made me do it. Im going to check my 1940 and see if the grips are numbered on that one, cant remember if they are numbered or proofed.
Thanks Dante

Nomadr · 01-31-2007, 12:27 AM

I have a pair of grips that are stamped with the last two numbers and the E/135.
I tried to get a better pic but my "user friendly" camera SUCKS!
Anyway here are the pics.
Bob

Nomadr · 01-31-2007, 12:29 AM

The one on the left has the E/135 stamped over the "9"
The one on the right is just to the lower left

Frank · 01-31-2007, 08:27 AM

Bob, thanks for the pics!! Just is proof that both serial numbers and Waffenamt Marks do exist!! BTW, nasty chip on the left grip! Too bad!

Nomadr · 01-31-2007, 08:41 AM

Ya, I do have the piece that broke off. I just need some time to carefully glue it back on.
Bob

01-23-2007, 09:38 PM	#1
luckyluke77 User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	BYF Grips Are there serial numbers on byf grips. i know there are none on the black plastic grips but what about the wooden ones. Does it make a difference whether it is 1941 or 1942. thanks

01-23-2007, 10:07 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	welcome, I do not know, but there is info on the FAQ: http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...threadid=13121 __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-31-2007, 12:27 AM	#12
Nomadr Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 276 Thanks: 16 Thanked 28 Times in 22 Posts	numbered grips I have a pair of grips that are stamped with the last two numbers and the E/135. I tried to get a better pic but my "user friendly" camera SUCKS! Anyway here are the pics. Bob Attached Thumbnails

01-31-2007, 12:29 AM	#13
Nomadr Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 276 Thanks: 16 Thanked 28 Times in 22 Posts	another The one on the left has the E/135 stamped over the "9" The one on the right is just to the lower left Attached Images

01-23-2007, 11:26 PM	#3
tracyp User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Peoples Republic of Kalifornia Posts: 391 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Yes, the grips are serialized. I have a 41 and 42, and both have the last two digits of the serial number on the inside of the grips. Tracy

01-23-2007, 11:39 PM	#4
luckyluke77 User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks. from reading the referred to answers it appears that byf 1942 wood grips should be stamped. however i am not clear as to what 1941 wood grips should have or not have. further refernce to a suffix is made. does that refer to the scripted letter under the serial number on the front of the frame below the barrel and receiver. lastly reference is made to b-block and n-block. what does that refer to. thanks

01-24-2007, 08:30 AM	#5
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Hi Lucky, welcome!! Yes, the wooden grips for both 41 and 42 byf Lugers should have the last two digits of the serial numbered stamped on the inside surface of the grips (just as Tracy said)!!! The term "block" refers to the suffix letted stamped on the front of the frame. Each letter represents about 10,000 pistols or blocks of pistols (actually, numbers from 1 to 9,999). So a n-block refers to pistol serial numbers in the range from 1n to 9999n. Hope this helps

01-29-2007, 03:05 PM	#6
byf43 User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 69 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Funny how I find this thread just as I were thinking along the same lines So to sum up; all byfs are serialed (wood grips)? They didn't stop at some point in 1942? Are there supposed to be WaA marks in the grips also? My impression is no?

01-29-2007, 05:04 PM	#7
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Mikkel, all byf wooden grips should be serialized to the pistol. Some "official" replacement grips were made with E/655 and some with E/135 Waffenamt Marks, but rarely, if any, were both Waffenamt and serial marked!!

01-30-2007, 01:22 AM	#8
byf43 User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 69 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks! Not knowing this for sure had been annoying me for some time.

01-30-2007, 01:32 AM	#9
Dante Di Pietro Jr. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Maine Posts: 73 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	what about 1940 1939/42 grips, are they supposed to be numbered?

01-30-2007, 08:31 AM	#10
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Dante, the 1939 Code 42 grips are not numbered in almost every case I have seen. The 1940 Code 42 grips are numbered in almost every case I have seen. Hope this helps!!

01-30-2007, 09:42 AM	#11
Dante Di Pietro Jr. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Maine Posts: 73 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Frank, I have a 1939 and the grips are unnumbered, I was really worried because it is minty with two matching mags, mint original grips, paid $3000 came with minty holster and tool. Thats the most Ive ever paid for a luger I think. The condition of the rig and the two mags just made me do it. Im going to check my 1940 and see if the grips are numbered on that one, cant remember if they are numbered or proofed. Thanks Dante

01-31-2007, 08:27 AM	#14
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Bob, thanks for the pics!! Just is proof that both serial numbers and Waffenamt Marks do exist!! BTW, nasty chip on the left grip! Too bad!

01-31-2007, 08:41 AM	#15
Nomadr Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 276 Thanks: 16 Thanked 28 Times in 22 Posts	Ya, I do have the piece that broke off. I just need some time to carefully glue it back on. Bob