Artillery Receiver Value

Doubs · 08-28-2011, 07:01 PM

Gentlemen, I have a 1916 DWM Artillery Luger receiver with part of the barrel attached but stripped of all parts. There is some damage to the left rail and the right forward receiver above the proof marks. It was this way when I acquired it. The rail should fit into a frame OK with a bit of fitting and make a nice shooter when a new barrel has been installed. The inside of the receiver, trigger bar area and ejector area are fine. So is the toggle link area. The damaged areas can be clearly seen in the attached pictures. I've circled the areas that are damaged.

My problem is, I don't know what the current value is. I don't want to ask too much but I also want fair value for it. Please help. Pictures below.

G.T. · 08-28-2011, 08:39 PM

Hi Doubs, I have been selling a few stripped receivers on Gun Broker, and although they seem to move at $100.00, they also seem to sit a long time at $150.00... I don't think the artillery notch is too important as to value, as there are a lot of standard P.08s that sport that notch ... Navy receivers, Navy marked, or with the large pin flange seem to command a premium... The art. barrel stub is not of any value unless you want a dimensional sample to build a barrel with..

.. Just my opinion, but it's a start.. Best to all, til...lat'r...GT

sheepherder · 08-28-2011, 09:01 PM

The marks are consistent with some dummy trying to unscrew the barrel from the receiver without the proper tools...Don't ask me how I know...

It is easy to skew the receiver by doing this...And a real beetch to get it straightened and aligned afterward...

The marks will affect the price, and as Gerry says, it's not all that rare to begin with...IMHO, if you get a $100 for it, you is doin' good...

Doubs · 08-29-2011, 01:46 PM

Thank you G.T. and Postino. I agree that some idiot tried to remove the barrel without the proper tools. Happily, that idiot wasn't me! I hope my pictures clearly show what a buyer would receive. I don't believe the receiver is warped as it will slide onto a frame until it reaches the point on the rail where the damage is and then it gets tight but will go on. A toggle train fits perfectly on it.

It was my intention to rebarrel it but I have enough "shooters" so it's surplus to my needs.

To the best of my knowledge, only Erfurt followed the 1916 military order to notch all Luger receivers for the Artillery sight. Therefore, any DWM notched receiver will have originally been an Artillery model. That, of course, will mean nothing to someone who only wants a shooter.

08-28-2011, 07:01 PM	#1
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,700 Thanks: 792 Thanked 1,692 Times in 555 Posts	Artillery Receiver Value Gentlemen, I have a 1916 DWM Artillery Luger receiver with part of the barrel attached but stripped of all parts. There is some damage to the left rail and the right forward receiver above the proof marks. It was this way when I acquired it. The rail should fit into a frame OK with a bit of fitting and make a nice shooter when a new barrel has been installed. The inside of the receiver, trigger bar area and ejector area are fine. So is the toggle link area. The damaged areas can be clearly seen in the attached pictures. I've circled the areas that are damaged. My problem is, I don't know what the current value is. I don't want to ask too much but I also want fair value for it. Please help. Pictures below. Last edited by Doubs; 08-28-2011 at 07:59 PM.

08-28-2011, 08:39 PM	#2
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,507 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 3,653 Times in 1,004 Posts	Receiver value Hi Doubs, I have been selling a few stripped receivers on Gun Broker, and although they seem to move at $100.00, they also seem to sit a long time at $150.00... I don't think the artillery notch is too important as to value, as there are a lot of standard P.08s that sport that notch ... Navy receivers, Navy marked, or with the large pin flange seem to command a premium... The art. barrel stub is not of any value unless you want a dimensional sample to build a barrel with.. .. Just my opinion, but it's a start.. Best to all, til...lat'r...GT

08-28-2011, 09:01 PM	#3
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,183 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts	The marks are consistent with some dummy trying to unscrew the barrel from the receiver without the proper tools...Don't ask me how I know... It is easy to skew the receiver by doing this...And a real beetch to get it straightened and aligned afterward... The marks will affect the price, and as Gerry says, it's not all that rare to begin with...IMHO, if you get a $100 for it, you is doin' good... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

08-29-2011, 01:46 PM	#4
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,700 Thanks: 792 Thanked 1,692 Times in 555 Posts	Thank you G.T. and Postino. I agree that some idiot tried to remove the barrel without the proper tools. Happily, that idiot wasn't me! I hope my pictures clearly show what a buyer would receive. I don't believe the receiver is warped as it will slide onto a frame until it reaches the point on the rail where the damage is and then it gets tight but will go on. A toggle train fits perfectly on it. It was my intention to rebarrel it but I have enough "shooters" so it's surplus to my needs. To the best of my knowledge, only Erfurt followed the 1916 military order to notch all Luger receivers for the Artillery sight. Therefore, any DWM notched receiver will have originally been an Artillery model. That, of course, will mean nothing to someone who only wants a shooter.