Luger information

KEN · 03-19-2002, 02:52 PM

In my past reading, I have read refferences to long and short frame lugers, what is the difference? Thanks..Ken

Big Norm · 03-19-2002, 03:57 PM

The difference between a the long fram and the short frame can be clearly seen when comparing a 1908 P04 and a model 1914 P04 look at any picture of these guns and look at the side views of the frames. Look at the frame just in front of the locking bolt. There is a large radius on the long frame and a smaller radius on the short frame. Other Lugers could be used, I just happened to think of the P04. I guess that any pre 1908 (except the P04) and post 1908 could be used for comparision. 1908 seems to be the transition year.

Big Norm

Johnny Peppers · 03-19-2002, 04:34 PM

Drop down and look at the picture of the 1900 Swiss posted by Doug as that is a long frame. As far as I know, all the Model 1900's had the long frame, while the 1902's used the short frame. The Model 1906 will be found both ways, but the long frame is scarce in the 1906. Some of the low production pistols between the Model 1900 and 1906 still used the long frame configuration.

There is approximately 1/16" difference in the length of the two frames, and the barrels for the two pistols will not interchange. You will occasionally see a short frame barrel that has had the shoulder set back to fit in a long frame.

KEN · 03-19-2002, 04:37 PM

Thank You all, now I know....

Jim · 03-20-2002, 05:00 PM

For me, the easy way to tell the difference is that the long frame is flush with the trigger guard, while the trigger guard is "cut back" or narrower than the frame where the two meet.

03-19-2002, 02:52 PM	#1
KEN User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 51 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Luger information In my past reading, I have read refferences to long and short frame lugers, what is the difference? Thanks..Ken

03-19-2002, 03:57 PM	#2
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Luger information The difference between a the long fram and the short frame can be clearly seen when comparing a 1908 P04 and a model 1914 P04 look at any picture of these guns and look at the side views of the frames. Look at the frame just in front of the locking bolt. There is a large radius on the long frame and a smaller radius on the short frame. Other Lugers could be used, I just happened to think of the P04. I guess that any pre 1908 (except the P04) and post 1908 could be used for comparision. 1908 seems to be the transition year. Big Norm

03-19-2002, 04:34 PM	#3
Johnny Peppers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Calion, Arkansas Posts: 1,042 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Luger information Drop down and look at the picture of the 1900 Swiss posted by Doug as that is a long frame. As far as I know, all the Model 1900's had the long frame, while the 1902's used the short frame. The Model 1906 will be found both ways, but the long frame is scarce in the 1906. Some of the low production pistols between the Model 1900 and 1906 still used the long frame configuration. There is approximately 1/16" difference in the length of the two frames, and the barrels for the two pistols will not interchange. You will occasionally see a short frame barrel that has had the shoulder set back to fit in a long frame.

03-19-2002, 04:37 PM	#4
KEN User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 51 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Luger information Thank You all Thank You all, now I know....

03-20-2002, 05:00 PM	#5
Jim User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Luger information For me, the easy way to tell the difference is that the long frame is flush with the trigger guard, while the trigger guard is "cut back" or narrower than the frame where the two meet.