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Unread 12-04-2012, 09:52 PM   #1
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Default 1915 DWM unit markings?

1. MG. 21. A. could they be 1st Machine Gun 21(st) Artillery , maybe? Just a guess really
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After some help on another forum thread, I have doen some research on the unit markings. I came across this website of german MG units (in german).

http://www.weltkriegsopfer.de/Verlus...eilen_113.html


as you can see there is only one possibility.

http://www.weltkriegsopfer.de/Inform...s_0_18511.html



Before I found the above website, these unit numbers kept bringing up the Alpine Corps and those numbers did jive...somewhat.

1. MG. 21. A. ..........but there is no Ss after the MG but still it's the closest I've found so far. Anyone have any other suggestions?

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and then there is this one:

Jäger-Bataillon „Graf Yorck von Wartenburg“ (Ostpreußisches) Nr. 1 Ortelsburg - I. Armee-Korps / XX. Armee-Korps
Maschinengewehr-Abteilung Nr. 1
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Have a 1915 DWM, sn 5622c, unit marked 1.M.G.21. A. which signifies (my best estimate) 1.Machinengewehr-Kompagnie, 21 Armeekorps. See page 267 Central Powers Pistols.

Also have another 1915 DWM, sn 3220c, unit marked 1.M.G.21. A. (lined out) which signifies (my best estimate) 1.Machinengewehr-Kompagnie, 21 Armeekorps.
This unit mark is replaced with JR.60.MGK. Infanterie Regiment 60 Machinengewehr-Kompagnie.

For my data base, what is the serial number of your Luger?

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Have a 1915 DWM, sn 5622c, unit marked 1.M.G.21. A. which signifies (my best estimate) 1.Machinengewehr-Kompagnie, 21 Armeekorps. See page 267 Central Powers Pistols.

Also have another 1915 DWM, sn 3220c, unit marked 1.M.G.21. A. (lined out) which signifies (my best estimate) 1.Machinengewehr-Kompagnie, 21 Armeekorps.
This unit mark is replaced with JR.60.MGK. Infanterie Regiment 60 Machinengewehr-Kompagnie.

For my data base, what is the serial number of your Luger?

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My 1915 is 1011a and unit markings are 1.M.G. 21.A.
My 1916 is 4689a and unit markings are M.G. TR.9. K.

I don't have that book unfortunetly.
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I'm a numbers guy and that double number deal is a little difficult to comprehend. Man, what are the chances of one person getting that double up???
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The double (identical) unit mark "1.M.G.21.A." lacks a weapons number and therefore is not a duplication of a complete unit stamp. This is not common but happens.

The 1.M.G.21.A. is also identified as 1.Machinengewehr-Kompagnie, Ausbildungskommando?, 21 Armeekorps. Perhaps some of the unit markings experts on this forum can clear this up.

Also, a similar unit stamp: M.G.A.1.53. has been identified as Machinengewehr-Abteilung Nr. 1, weapon No 53, in official markings regulations.

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Also looked into my new book the unit marking 1.M.G.21.A. and I found it exactly as you said but (Scharfschutzen) is added after Machinengewehr. Shame we don't have a weapon's number.



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The double (identical) unit mark "1.M.G.21.A." lacks a weapons number and therefore is not a duplication of a complete unit stamp. This is not common but happens.

The 1.M.G.21.A. is also identified as 1.Machinengewehr-Kompagnie, Ausbildungskommando?, 21 Armeekorps. Perhaps some of the unit markings experts on this forum can clear this up.

Also, a similar unit stamp: M.G.A.1.53. has been identified as Machinengewehr-Abteilung Nr. 1, weapon No 53, in official markings regulations.

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