Daniel drum on egun

charly239 · 01-27-2013, 02:22 PM

Dear sirs

Pls Look

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4239675

A Good One?

Regards Thomas

Vlim · 01-27-2013, 02:26 PM

An excellent example (of a reproduction, that is ...).

charly239 · 01-27-2013, 02:38 PM

Sorry i Worte a wrong Headline ...Apple Have a Bad Auto fill in

I Mean snail drum 😪

el_loco · 01-27-2013, 02:45 PM

vlim, how do you recognize that as a reproducion?

i have a snail drum here, i use it for shooting.
but i never found out, is it a repro or is it an original

best regards
klaus

Vlim · 01-27-2013, 05:45 PM

There are several giveaways. The easiest one is to add up the individual digits of the serial number: if the sum equals 17 it is a repro.

Speckled rust drops are artificially created. Also the numbering style is typical for these repros.

Norme · 01-27-2013, 06:02 PM

Hi Gerben, What I find troubling about this drum (which looks like a fake to me, too), is that the serial numbers do not add up to 17, they add up to 20. It may be that this simple method of fake recognition is no longer valid.
Regards, Norm

Vlim · 01-27-2013, 06:19 PM

1 + 1 + 0 + 1 + 7 + 7 = (still) 17

Norme · 01-27-2013, 06:24 PM

Hi Gerben, That middle 1 looks like a 4 to me.
Regards, Norm

Vlim · 01-27-2013, 06:31 PM

Looks more like a 1 that was abused to look like a 4.

Ron Wood · 01-27-2013, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlim

Looks more like a 1 that was abused to look like a 4.

I agree. My first look seemed to indicate a 4 but after enlarging the image it is clear that it is a 1 with a line struck through it...it isn't even a complete 4. Obviously an attempt to foil the "17" forgery giveaway.

Norme · 01-27-2013, 11:26 PM

Hi Gerben, You were right, I sharpened up the photo and it's quite plainly a 1 that's been doctored to look like a 4. My apologies to you, sir.
Regards, Norm

Vlim · 01-28-2013, 12:26 PM

Norme, no apologies needed!

It is interesting to see how these repros will evolve into 'real items' in the years to come

SIGP2101 · 01-30-2013, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlim

Norme, no apologies needed!

It is interesting to see how these repros will evolve into 'real items' in the years to come

They are already did - judging by going price on this side of the world at least.

01-27-2013, 02:22 PM	#1
charly239 User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 211 Thanks: 16 Thanked 10 Times in 2 Posts	Daniel drum on egun Dear sirs Pls Look http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4239675 A Good One? Regards Thomas

01-27-2013, 02:45 PM	#4
el_loco Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: bavaria - germany Posts: 49 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	vlim, how do you recognize that as a reproducion? i have a snail drum here, i use it for shooting. but i never found out, is it a repro or is it an original best regards klaus __________________ Extra Bavariam nulla vita, et si est vita, non est ita

01-27-2013, 06:24 PM	#8
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Gerben, That middle 1 looks like a 4 to me. Regards, Norm Attached Thumbnails

01-27-2013, 11:26 PM	#11
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Gerben, You were right, I sharpened up the photo and it's quite plainly a 1 that's been doctored to look like a 4. My apologies to you, sir. Regards, Norm Attached Thumbnails

01-27-2013, 02:26 PM	#2
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	An excellent example (of a reproduction, that is ...).

01-27-2013, 02:38 PM	#3
charly239 User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 211 Thanks: 16 Thanked 10 Times in 2 Posts	Sorry i Worte a wrong Headline ...Apple Have a Bad Auto fill in I Mean snail drum 😪

01-27-2013, 05:45 PM	#5
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	There are several giveaways. The easiest one is to add up the individual digits of the serial number: if the sum equals 17 it is a repro. Speckled rust drops are artificially created. Also the numbering style is typical for these repros.

01-27-2013, 06:02 PM	#6
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Gerben, What I find troubling about this drum (which looks like a fake to me, too), is that the serial numbers do not add up to 17, they add up to 20. It may be that this simple method of fake recognition is no longer valid. Regards, Norm

01-27-2013, 06:19 PM	#7
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	1 + 1 + 0 + 1 + 7 + 7 = (still) 17

01-27-2013, 06:31 PM	#9
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	Looks more like a 1 that was abused to look like a 4.

01-28-2013, 12:26 PM	#12
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	Norme, no apologies needed! It is interesting to see how these repros will evolve into 'real items' in the years to come