1917 DWM newbie

Eotlou · 02-25-2017, 02:18 PM

Thanks for taking the time to look at this. My son inherited this gun and he volunteered me to find out what I can about it. Any help is appreciated. More pics are available. Just ask.

Eotlou · 02-25-2017, 02:23 PM

I believe the numbers on the butt of the magazine are 9263.

DavidJayUden · 02-25-2017, 03:44 PM

Looks like a very nice military Artillery Luger, not perfect but much nicer than most. Finish looks original, but you need to check all the internals for correct numbering. Mag. is obviously a mismatch. What specific questions do you have for us?
dju

Eotlou · 02-25-2017, 04:43 PM

Thanks for the quick response. Not sure I'm' the person to disassemble but will look into what it takes. From what I can tell, all of the external numbers match. We removed the grips, wondering if they were numbered. Appears to be 67 stamped in the wood. Any thoughts on that?

ithacaartist · 02-25-2017, 07:25 PM

Just search YouTube for disassembly demonstrations. Not hard, done without tools. Be careful if removing the left grip.

Eotlou · 02-25-2017, 07:54 PM

Thanks for the suggestion. Was every original internal part numbered?

ithacaartist · 02-26-2017, 12:23 AM

That question was just answered on another thread, http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=36732 Since yours is military style numbered, I think only the firing pin's number remains not visible from the outside.

kurusu · 02-26-2017, 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ithacaartist

That question was just answered on another thread, http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=36732 Since yours is military style numbered, I think only the firing pin's number remains not visible from the outside.

You can't see the breechblock number with the assembled pistol either.

Eotlou · 02-26-2017, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ithacaartist

Just search YouTube for disassembly demonstrations. Not hard, done without tools. Be careful if removing the left grip.

What should I watch for if I remove left grip?

DavidJayUden · 02-26-2017, 09:49 AM

Remove the screw and with finger inside the mag well lift the grip only slightly then rotate it down in the front and remove the grip down toward the butt. The idea is to put NO pressure on that tiny bit of wood behind the safety (top rear corner, left grip panel) as it is pinched in there and easily chipped off. So do not simply lift the panel up to remove it.
dju

Eotlou · 02-26-2017, 10:04 AM

Thanks. I was afraid a spring was going to fly, etc.

Eotlou · 02-26-2017, 10:06 AM

What shall I do once inside? Take picks of numbered parts? Clean it?

Eotlou · 02-26-2017, 10:51 AM

Somewhere in the forum's I recall seeing a breakdown diagram of a Luger. Can't seem to relocate it.

kurusu · 02-26-2017, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eotlou

What shall I do once inside? Take picks of numbered parts? Clean it?

Both.

kurusu · 02-26-2017, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eotlou

Somewhere in the forum's I recall seeing a breakdown diagram of a Luger. Can't seem to relocate it.

There are plenty how disassemble videos online. Just google it up.

DonVoigt · 02-26-2017, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eotlou

Thanks for the quick response. Not sure I'm' the person to disassemble but will look into what it takes. From what I can tell, all of the external numbers match. We removed the grips, wondering if they were numbered. Appears to be 67 stamped in the wood. Any thoughts on that?

The grips would have had "49" inside when made, so the grips are replaced somewhere/sometime. Well I am guessing the serial number ends in 49, but I can't see the entire serial, it is on the front of the frame, bottom of barrel and left side. Those pictures would be good to post.

Welcome to the board.

Do read the stickys for info and what questions to answer and which pictures are important, they are in the new collector forum.

Zonaken · 02-26-2017, 02:22 PM

Eotlou
The FAQ tab at the top of the page has an excellent document attached which addresses many many many questions us newbies frequently post.
Sure wish I would have read this before I posted a few of my rookie posts...
Beautiful pistol though; enjoy your research!
Zk

Eotlou · 02-26-2017, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

Looks like a very nice military Artillery Luger, not perfect but much nicer than most. Finish looks original, but you need to check all the internals for correct numbering. Mag. is obviously a mismatch. What specific questions do you have for us?
dju

Disassembled today and believe I got the matching internal numbers suggested?

kurusu · 02-26-2017, 07:43 PM

You are still missing a photo of the left side of the breechblock that's where the number is.

Eotlou · 02-26-2017, 08:35 PM

Thanks. Guess I get to take it apart again.

02-25-2017, 02:18 PM	#1
Eotlou User Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	1917 DWM newbie Thanks for taking the time to look at this. My son inherited this gun and he volunteered me to find out what I can about it. Any help is appreciated. More pics are available. Just ask. Attached Thumbnails

02-25-2017, 02:23 PM	#2
Eotlou User Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	A Few More Pic's I believe the numbers on the butt of the magazine are 9263. Attached Thumbnails

02-25-2017, 07:25 PM	#5
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,347 Thanks: 7,285 Thanked 2,579 Times in 1,366 Posts	Just search YouTube for disassembly demonstrations. Not hard, done without tools. Be careful if removing the left grip. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

02-26-2017, 12:23 AM	#7
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,347 Thanks: 7,285 Thanked 2,579 Times in 1,366 Posts	That question was just answered on another thread, http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=36732 Since yours is military style numbered, I think only the firing pin's number remains not visible from the outside. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

02-25-2017, 03:44 PM	#3
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Looks like a very nice military Artillery Luger, not perfect but much nicer than most. Finish looks original, but you need to check all the internals for correct numbering. Mag. is obviously a mismatch. What specific questions do you have for us? dju

02-25-2017, 04:43 PM	#4
Eotlou User Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Thanks for the quick response. Not sure I'm' the person to disassemble but will look into what it takes. From what I can tell, all of the external numbers match. We removed the grips, wondering if they were numbered. Appears to be 67 stamped in the wood. Any thoughts on that?

02-25-2017, 07:54 PM	#6
Eotlou User Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Thanks for the suggestion. Was every original internal part numbered?

02-26-2017, 09:49 AM	#10
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Remove the screw and with finger inside the mag well lift the grip only slightly then rotate it down in the front and remove the grip down toward the butt. The idea is to put NO pressure on that tiny bit of wood behind the safety (top rear corner, left grip panel) as it is pinched in there and easily chipped off. So do not simply lift the panel up to remove it. dju

02-26-2017, 10:04 AM	#11
Eotlou User Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Thanks. I was afraid a spring was going to fly, etc.

02-26-2017, 10:06 AM	#12
Eotlou User Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	What shall I do once inside? Take picks of numbered parts? Clean it?

02-26-2017, 10:51 AM	#13
Eotlou User Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Somewhere in the forum's I recall seeing a breakdown diagram of a Luger. Can't seem to relocate it.

02-26-2017, 02:22 PM	#17
Zonaken User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Tucson Posts: 26 Thanks: 17 Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts	Eotlou The FAQ tab at the top of the page has an excellent document attached which addresses many many many questions us newbies frequently post. Sure wish I would have read this before I posted a few of my rookie posts... Beautiful pistol though; enjoy your research! Zk

02-26-2017, 07:43 PM	#19
kurusu User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,225 Thanks: 2,679 Thanked 930 Times in 509 Posts	You are still missing a photo of the left side of the breechblock that's where the number is.

02-26-2017, 08:35 PM	#20
Eotlou User Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Thanks. Guess I get to take it apart again.