Navy magazine

craig16134 · 10-09-2006, 09:35 PM

Is this a true navy magazine?? It has a crown over the letter "M"

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...arge_copy1.jpg

NavyLugerLover · 10-10-2006, 04:31 AM

Yes it is... What is your price?

craig16134 · 10-11-2006, 12:16 AM

I'm still re-searching the value, as well as trying to find another magazine for my luger which matches it's 1920 commercial era.

My luger pics are under the newbie section.

Pete Ebbink · 10-11-2006, 12:23 AM

Cropped and lightened photo :

craig16134 · 10-12-2006, 01:12 AM

Thank's for the crop job pete.

Craig

Pete Ebbink · 10-12-2006, 01:27 AM

Craig,

I could not tell for sure from the photo; are there numbers along the wood ?

Also, you might want to post up left and right side photos so folks can see the tube condition and the retainer pin details and whether it has concentric circles in the wood or not.

BTW...I have seen authentic, nice Navy magazines go for $ 250 -350 at shows in the past 1.5 years.

craig16134 · 10-12-2006, 01:59 AM

Pete,

Ron Wood belived that It may be a early navy due to the fact that It does not have concentric circles.

I'll post better pic's ASAP

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...arge_copy2.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...arge_copy1.jpg

Craig

Ron Wood · 10-12-2006, 11:41 AM

Actually I placed it as an early magazine due to the placement of the serial number along the long axis of the base and indicated that some Navy magazines are known without concentric rings, particularly the early ones.

craig16134 · 10-12-2006, 11:03 PM

Sorry for the mis-quote Ron.

This magazine still seems to elude just exactly where it belongs, any more Info would be very helpful.

George Anderson · 10-13-2006, 08:38 AM

I would think that it is the magazine from a later Navy Luger. My collection includes a 1917 Navy with just such a magazine matched to the pistol and original.

luger11 · 10-13-2006, 05:37 PM

George ..you are correct. The concentric ringed mags were made for the 1904, 1906 and the 1908. The plain bottom mags started showing up on the 1914 navies. But it is not uncommon to find the concentric ringed mags on the 1914 models.

Leo

Ron Wood · 10-13-2006, 05:53 PM

So the early style of numbering along the long axis of the base carried through on the Navies until the end?

George Anderson · 10-13-2006, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ron Wood
So the early style of numbering along the long axis of the base carried through on the Navies until the end?

Ron, that has been what I have experianced. Of late I have seen or heard of things that lead me to think that the concentric ring usage was at the very earliest point nothing more than a way to indicate 9mm calibre.

craig16134 · 10-13-2006, 10:26 PM

George,

can you post pic's of your magazine for comparision.

10-09-2006, 09:35 PM	#1
craig16134 User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pa. Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Navy magazine Is this a true navy magazine?? It has a crown over the letter "M" http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...arge_copy1.jpg

10-10-2006, 04:31 AM	#2
NavyLugerLover User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: American Citizen outside the USA (Austria) Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Yes it is... What is your price? __________________ Swiss Lugers, (.30): DWM 1900, 1906 2nd variation, W+F 1906-24, 1929 Privat, 1929 Military, 9 mm 1929 Military. WW1 DWM German Lugers (9mm): Lange Pistolen P08-14 1916 & 1917, P08 1913, P08-14 1917, Navy P1904 altered safety, Navy P04-1906 downward safety. WW 2 Mauser German Lugers (9mm): 42-1940, byf 41, byf 42 black widow. And some other things...

10-12-2006, 11:41 AM	#8
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,179 Times in 1,703 Posts	Actually I placed it as an early magazine due to the placement of the serial number along the long axis of the base and indicated that some Navy magazines are known without concentric rings, particularly the early ones. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

10-13-2006, 05:53 PM	#12
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,179 Times in 1,703 Posts	So the early style of numbering along the long axis of the base carried through on the Navies until the end? __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

10-11-2006, 12:16 AM	#3
craig16134 User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pa. Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm still re-searching the value, as well as trying to find another magazine for my luger which matches it's 1920 commercial era. My luger pics are under the newbie section.

10-11-2006, 12:23 AM	#4
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Cropped and lightened photo :

10-12-2006, 01:12 AM	#5
craig16134 User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pa. Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank's for the crop job pete. Craig

10-12-2006, 01:27 AM	#6
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Craig, I could not tell for sure from the photo; are there numbers along the wood ? Also, you might want to post up left and right side photos so folks can see the tube condition and the retainer pin details and whether it has concentric circles in the wood or not. BTW...I have seen authentic, nice Navy magazines go for $ 250 -350 at shows in the past 1.5 years.

10-12-2006, 01:59 AM	#7
craig16134 User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pa. Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Pete, Ron Wood belived that It may be a early navy due to the fact that It does not have concentric circles. I'll post better pic's ASAP http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...arge_copy2.jpg http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...arge_copy1.jpg Craig

10-12-2006, 11:03 PM	#9
craig16134 User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pa. Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sorry for the mis-quote Ron. This magazine still seems to elude just exactly where it belongs, any more Info would be very helpful.

10-13-2006, 08:38 AM	#10
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,529 Times in 787 Posts	I would think that it is the magazine from a later Navy Luger. My collection includes a 1917 Navy with just such a magazine matched to the pistol and original.

10-13-2006, 05:37 PM	#11
luger11 User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 149 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	George ..you are correct. The concentric ringed mags were made for the 1904, 1906 and the 1908. The plain bottom mags started showing up on the 1914 navies. But it is not uncommon to find the concentric ringed mags on the 1914 models. Leo

10-13-2006, 10:26 PM	#14
craig16134 User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pa. Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	George, can you post pic's of your magazine for comparision.