Police rework marking

wworker · 07-10-2007, 06:45 AM

I recently bought a police rework Luger and it has a sear safety, many markings and serial number overstrikes.

I found this particular stamping unusal and don't know what it means.

Any ideas?

Ron Smith · 07-10-2007, 10:38 AM

Ken,

It's an HZa depot rework stamp. Indicating that the pistol was repaired or refurbished at HZa Depot #13.

If you are a member on Still's forum. Here's a link to a discussion on these marks.

http://luger.gunboards.com/topic.asp...earchTerms=HZa

Ron

Dwight Gruber · 07-10-2007, 02:03 PM

To add to Ron's answer, it is was Depot #13 in Ingolstadt (Jngolstadt, in German).

--Dwight

wworker · 07-10-2007, 07:12 PM

So there are 3 parts to this stamping if I understand it correctly.

HZa refers to a company
Jt is a abbreviation for Jngolstadt
13 is the depot number

The number 13 is difficult to distinguish, but knowing that is what it is, I suppose I can see it.

The last 2 numbers of the serial numbers are stamped and overstamped on the correct parts, but one on the toggle wasn't done very well.

Also the last 2 numbers were applied to the toggle pin, an indication of Nazi era rework.

Dwight Gruber · 07-10-2007, 09:28 PM

HZa = Heers Zeugamt = Army weapons depot

And it's 18, rather than 13.

This depot seems to have done a lot of P-08 work.

--Dwight

Lugerdoc · 07-11-2007, 11:58 AM

It's possible that some of the overstamped serials (particularly if tbe new numbers are engraved) may be signs of a later DDR rework. TH

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Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Ken, It's an HZa depot rework stamp. Indicating that the pistol was repaired or refurbished at HZa Depot #13. If you are a member on Still's forum. Here's a link to a discussion on these marks. http://luger.gunboards.com/topic.asp...earchTerms=HZa Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

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07-10-2007, 06:45 AM	#1
wworker User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Police rework marking I recently bought a police rework Luger and it has a sear safety, many markings and serial number overstrikes. I found this particular stamping unusal and don't know what it means. Any ideas?

07-10-2007, 02:03 PM	#3
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	To add to Ron's answer, it is was Depot #13 in Ingolstadt (Jngolstadt, in German). --Dwight

07-10-2007, 07:12 PM	#4
wworker User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	So there are 3 parts to this stamping if I understand it correctly. HZa refers to a company Jt is a abbreviation for Jngolstadt 13 is the depot number The number 13 is difficult to distinguish, but knowing that is what it is, I suppose I can see it. The last 2 numbers of the serial numbers are stamped and overstamped on the correct parts, but one on the toggle wasn't done very well. Also the last 2 numbers were applied to the toggle pin, an indication of Nazi era rework.

07-10-2007, 09:28 PM	#5
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	HZa = Heers Zeugamt = Army weapons depot And it's 18, rather than 13. This depot seems to have done a lot of P-08 work. --Dwight