Desert bronze Issue DWM?

paradox998 · 09-02-2007, 01:11 AM

Is there such a animal as a "Desert Bronze Issue" 1916 DWM? I have never seen a reference to one, but saw one on GunBroker and was wondering if this is a real subtype, or just marketing hype? Thanks

Dwight Gruber · 09-02-2007, 04:55 AM

The imagination of some people never ceases to amaze. Got a link?

--Dwight

Aaron · 09-02-2007, 01:39 PM

Did a search on GB. Nothing found.

paradox998 · 09-02-2007, 01:54 PM

Here's the gunbroker link. Sounded suspecious to me. thanks for the opinions!

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=79342924

Pete Ebbink · 09-02-2007, 01:58 PM

Looks like it was run through a jeweler's buffing/lapping wheel...

Dwight Gruber · 09-02-2007, 02:01 PM

It's been buffed n'reblued, don't see any bronze anywhere!

--Dwight

Ron Smith · 09-02-2007, 02:13 PM

The "Bronze" is due to rebluing at the wrong temperature or not left in the tank long enough. Kind of like over done strawing.

Those darn Germans and their Desert Bronzing. Between this and the nickle plating of submarine lugers... Makes you wonder if they ever got mixed up and sent to the wrong units.

Imagine the frustration of getting a chrome plated luger if you were stationed in the Sahara. Everybody would point and laugh...

Ron Smith · 09-02-2007, 06:53 PM

Terry,

It looks like the even rarer Off White variation to me.

Ron

Ron Smith · 09-02-2007, 07:36 PM

The whiting in the proof marks was the give away. It's much lighter than the finish.

fred p · 09-02-2007, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tacfoley
Well, I spose it's time to 'fess up and admit that I have an all-white 'P08 Ostfrontweisstarnsonderausfuehrung' as issued to Wehrmacht troops immediately prior to their first winter of campaigning in Russia.

Details of this ultra-rare pistol, with its all-over semi-gloss white finish, including the two matching magazines, can be seen in the photograph below, which clearly shows the benefits of having a white handgun in snowy conditions -

maybe you should demand a 5000 dollar inspection fee. just to avoid the tire kickers ya know!

fred

The caption, also in white, reads 'Hauptmann Maximilian, Graf von Loeffelgeier u. Suppenbecher, von Nord-Rhein-Westfalen, demonstriert die EffektivitÃ?Â¤t seiner Tarnungsuniform, einschlieÃ??lich seiner alle-weiÃ??en Pistole 08, in einem Schneesturm irgendwo auf der Ã??stFront',

I think you'd all agree that this remarkable and so far unique example of the gunmaker's art deserves to be better known, and it is therefore offered for sale, with no reserve, at a fixed price of $100,000. Principals only, please.

Thank you.

tac

GerColctor · 09-02-2007, 08:55 PM

Ron

I thought that all of the nickle plated Lugers only went to high ranking officers of the SS. It is "news" to me that some were actually issued to members of the U-Boat service. You learn something new everyday.

Joe

Ron Smith · 09-03-2007, 10:14 AM

Terry,

I certainly hope that you plan on leaving your brain to science. It needs to be studied.

Although, this may be an impossible task, as I'm sure it will eventually escape and take over the world.

Rube Goldberg would be in awe.

09-02-2007, 01:11 AM	#1
paradox998 User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: South Florida Posts: 105 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Desert bronze Issue DWM? Is there such a animal as a "Desert Bronze Issue" 1916 DWM? I have never seen a reference to one, but saw one on GunBroker and was wondering if this is a real subtype, or just marketing hype? Thanks

09-02-2007, 01:54 PM	#4
paradox998 User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: South Florida Posts: 105 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Here's the link to the Desert Bronze Here's the gunbroker link. Sounded suspecious to me. thanks for the opinions! http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=79342924

09-02-2007, 02:13 PM	#7
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	The "Bronze" is due to rebluing at the wrong temperature or not left in the tank long enough. Kind of like over done strawing. Those darn Germans and their Desert Bronzing. Between this and the nickle plating of submarine lugers... Makes you wonder if they ever got mixed up and sent to the wrong units. Imagine the frustration of getting a chrome plated luger if you were stationed in the Sahara. Everybody would point and laugh... __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

09-02-2007, 06:53 PM	#8
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Terry, It looks like the even rarer Off White variation to me. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

09-02-2007, 07:36 PM	#9
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	The whiting in the proof marks was the give away. It's much lighter than the finish. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

09-02-2007, 04:55 AM	#2
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	The imagination of some people never ceases to amaze. Got a link? --Dwight

09-02-2007, 01:39 PM	#3
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Did a search on GB. Nothing found.

09-02-2007, 01:58 PM	#5
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Looks like it was run through a jeweler's buffing/lapping wheel...

09-02-2007, 02:01 PM	#6
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	It's been buffed n'reblued, don't see any bronze anywhere! --Dwight

09-02-2007, 08:55 PM	#11
GerColctor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: CT & FL Posts: 312 Thanks: 2 Thanked 45 Times in 29 Posts	Ron I thought that all of the nickle plated Lugers only went to high ranking officers of the SS. It is "news" to me that some were actually issued to members of the U-Boat service. You learn something new everyday. Joe __________________ It is better to have lived a day as a tiger, then a thousand years as a lamb.

09-03-2007, 10:14 AM	#12
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Terry, I certainly hope that you plan on leaving your brain to science. It needs to be studied. Although, this may be an impossible task, as I'm sure it will eventually escape and take over the world. Rube Goldberg would be in awe. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...