Mitchell Arms Stainless American Eagle

Flash · 08-25-2007, 10:30 AM

I need help with a value of this gun and a potential direction for possibly selling it. I have been checking the auction sites but nothing has come up in the few years I've been watching so I can't establish a benchmark for it's value. It has the box which is worn, the paperwork, hangtag and velvet draw string bag with Mitchel embroidered on it. Any help will be appreciated. Condition is 99% with a few handling marks.

trigger643 · 08-25-2007, 11:33 AM

I sold one about 2 years ago for $600.00. don't see too many of these around anymore. I'm guessing it will be $700-800... maybe

azlaw · 09-03-2007, 05:02 AM

Just out of curiosity, how did this product come about? I remember when these things hit the market, and I recall asking the same question. Did they actually tool up to make Lugers from scratch, or did they come into a set of tooling from some source? There must have been some number of complete Luger factories in existance in the 1940s, pehaps these guys found one for sale?

It does not appear that this product did very well, the fact that they didn't work very well probably didn't help. And the decision to go with stainless steel... well.

H

jamese · 09-03-2007, 08:01 AM

Flash,
I sent you a pvt mgs

Jim

Lugerdoc · 09-03-2007, 10:41 AM

H, Unfortunately, Aimco attemped to produce their own Luger tooling. In the 45+ years of ORIGINAL po8 manufacture, there were only 3 sets of tooling used: The Original DWM, The German government set from Erfurt and the WW1 era Swiss set, which was modified in 1929. All other manufactures, used one of these sets over the years. TH

Edward Tinker · 09-03-2007, 11:41 AM

Randall Gibson states the krieghoff tooling was newly made when it was found that the erfurt / simson tooling was no longer usable.

so, there were 4 sets of tooling

wlyon · 09-03-2007, 11:42 AM

Tom
Didn't Kreighoff also have a set of tools made ? Bill

wlyon · 09-03-2007, 11:48 AM

Ed
Looks like we posted at the same time Bill

azlaw · 09-03-2007, 01:16 PM

So, where are the toolings sets now? Is any set still intact?

H

Dwight Gruber · 09-03-2007, 03:44 PM

I response to the justified coment that this discussion has gone too far off-topic, I have deleted this post and moved it to a new discussion here:

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...threadid=17860

Perhaps it will promote its own discussion.

--Dwight

Brickie · 09-05-2007, 10:03 AM

Dwight
Thanks for the great information on the tooling machinery.

Edward Tinker · 09-05-2007, 10:57 AM

Rick, did you feel that the first answer by Glen was incorrect? (1 hour and 3 minutes after he asked the question). Should the thread have been locked at that time since his answer was given, and he never replied back to anyone?

It was 9 days later before the thread was "hi-jacked"...

Dwight Gruber · 09-05-2007, 01:04 PM

Rick, and Flash,

Many apologies for my lengthy addition to the digression from the original question.

--Dwight

Edward Tinker · 09-05-2007, 01:36 PM

Rick, I guess I am confused. You think basic courtesy was not observed, and since I thought the question was answered... ??

Some good information came from the discussion above, and you are stating that Henry's question was not legitimate? This was AFTER Glen (trigger643 answered), so like most questions in life, the subject changed.

I feel that what Henry asked, was to the oringal question, and the subject changed.

I actually think you have a good point, but to make the rest of us sound like buffoons without common courtesy by helping another members question seems a bit much to me?

Quote:

I keep hoping this is a forum for everyone to enjoy, and be treated like everyone else.

You do not feel this is true? If so, why?

Edward Tinker · 09-05-2007, 10:07 PM

encouraging politeness, well, I sure can't argue with that, or shouldn't, my mamma would whack me in the head

08-25-2007, 10:30 AM	#1
Flash New User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mitchell Arms Stainless American Eagle I need help with a value of this gun and a potential direction for possibly selling it. I have been checking the auction sites but nothing has come up in the few years I've been watching so I can't establish a benchmark for it's value. It has the box which is worn, the paperwork, hangtag and velvet draw string bag with Mitchel embroidered on it. Any help will be appreciated. Condition is 99% with a few handling marks.

08-25-2007, 11:33 AM	#2
trigger643 User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Murfreesboro Posts: 502 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I sold one about 2 years ago for $600.00. don't see too many of these around anymore. I'm guessing it will be $700-800... maybe __________________ "There are three reasons to own a gun: To protect yourself and your family, to hunt dangerous and delicious animals, and to keep the King of England out of your face." Ã¢?? Krusty the Clown

09-03-2007, 08:01 AM	#4
jamese User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 789 Thanks: 0 Thanked 84 Times in 34 Posts	Flash, I sent you a pvt mgs Jim __________________ The "truth" is a matter of Perception

09-03-2007, 10:41 AM	#5
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	H, Unfortunately, Aimco attemped to produce their own Luger tooling. In the 45+ years of ORIGINAL po8 manufacture, there were only 3 sets of tooling used: The Original DWM, The German government set from Erfurt and the WW1 era Swiss set, which was modified in 1929. All other manufactures, used one of these sets over the years. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 [email protected]

09-03-2007, 11:41 AM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,033 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	Randall Gibson states the krieghoff tooling was newly made when it was found that the erfurt / simson tooling was no longer usable. so, there were 4 sets of tooling __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

09-03-2007, 05:02 AM	#3
azlaw User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 204 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Just out of curiosity, how did this product come about? I remember when these things hit the market, and I recall asking the same question. Did they actually tool up to make Lugers from scratch, or did they come into a set of tooling from some source? There must have been some number of complete Luger factories in existance in the 1940s, pehaps these guys found one for sale? It does not appear that this product did very well, the fact that they didn't work very well probably didn't help. And the decision to go with stainless steel... well. H

09-03-2007, 11:42 AM	#7
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,636 Thanks: 3,174 Thanked 2,559 Times in 955 Posts	Tom Didn't Kreighoff also have a set of tools made ? Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

09-03-2007, 11:48 AM	#8
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,636 Thanks: 3,174 Thanked 2,559 Times in 955 Posts	Ed Looks like we posted at the same time Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

09-03-2007, 01:16 PM	#9
azlaw User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 204 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	So, where are the toolings sets now? Is any set still intact? H

09-03-2007, 03:44 PM	#10
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	I response to the justified coment that this discussion has gone too far off-topic, I have deleted this post and moved it to a new discussion here: http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...threadid=17860 Perhaps it will promote its own discussion. --Dwight

09-05-2007, 10:03 AM	#11
Brickie User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PA, USA Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Dwight Thanks for the great information on the tooling machinery.

09-05-2007, 10:57 AM	#12
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,033 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	Rick, did you feel that the first answer by Glen was incorrect? (1 hour and 3 minutes after he asked the question). Should the thread have been locked at that time since his answer was given, and he never replied back to anyone? It was 9 days later before the thread was "hi-jacked"...

09-05-2007, 01:04 PM	#13
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	Rick, and Flash, Many apologies for my lengthy addition to the digression from the original question. --Dwight

09-05-2007, 10:07 PM	#15
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,033 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	encouraging politeness, well, I sure can't argue with that, or shouldn't, my mamma would whack me in the head __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV