1916 broom with austrian proofs

myky · 06-15-2009, 08:31 PM

Guys...... just obtained this broom from my newspaper ad along with a buch of other stuff. Any idea how many were made approx. ?

alvin · 06-15-2009, 09:41 PM

s/n 377967, Austrian 1916. Sorry, no idea how many were sent to Austria.

I had a wierd thought on wartime 7,63, not solid, just put on table -- the regular production of 7,63 was stopped in 1916, or early 1917, major effort was put on 9x19. But twenty thousand plus 7,63 were assembled from previously made 7,63 barrels in 1917-1918, those factory made "parts gun" were seperately numbered, just like those 9x19.

tenbears · 06-15-2009, 11:26 PM

Very nice holster more pictures would be appreciated.

myky · 06-16-2009, 06:06 PM

Thanks so much guys for your input. Brooms are just not my bag. This one came with a bunch of other stuff, helments, etc. that I purchased from a family. Apparently this one was carried over into the 30's by the belt holster with the aluminum latch stud. The holster has no marks of any kind, but is typical German design and manufacture. One of the two pockets attached to the front is larger than the other for some reason. One for a stripper clip of ammo ? And the other for what ? Sure would be nice to put any additional info with it for posterity. Someone down the line sure would benefit....... Any opinions welcomed.....

Douglas Jr. · 06-18-2009, 12:25 PM

Austrian brooms are scarce.

Mostly (mine included) are dated 1917 but there are a few reported with 1916 date. All guns issued to the Austrians were "Wartime Commercial" models, with the new safety system (indicated by the superimposed letters NS on the basck of the hammer).

Does yours have any unit mark on the grip strap? Some have and it can add a lot of information about the pistol's story.

Jan Still's book "Central Powers Pistols" has a very detailed description of these guns as well a list of the reported surviving examples.

Douglas

06-15-2009, 08:31 PM	#1
myky User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 178 Thanks: 1 Thanked 22 Times in 9 Posts	1916 broom with austrian proofs Guys...... just obtained this broom from my newspaper ad along with a buch of other stuff. Any idea how many were made approx. ? Attached Thumbnails __________________ myky

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myky User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 178 Thanks: 1 Thanked 22 Times in 9 Posts	1916 broom with austrian proofs Thanks so much guys for your input. Brooms are just not my bag. This one came with a bunch of other stuff, helments, etc. that I purchased from a family. Apparently this one was carried over into the 30's by the belt holster with the aluminum latch stud. The holster has no marks of any kind, but is typical German design and manufacture. One of the two pockets attached to the front is larger than the other for some reason. One for a stripper clip of ammo ? And the other for what ? Sure would be nice to put any additional info with it for posterity. Someone down the line sure would benefit....... Any opinions welcomed..... Attached Thumbnails __________________ myky

06-15-2009, 09:41 PM	#2
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	s/n 377967, Austrian 1916. Sorry, no idea how many were sent to Austria. I had a wierd thought on wartime 7,63, not solid, just put on table -- the regular production of 7,63 was stopped in 1916, or early 1917, major effort was put on 9x19. But twenty thousand plus 7,63 were assembled from previously made 7,63 barrels in 1917-1918, those factory made "parts gun" were seperately numbered, just like those 9x19.

06-15-2009, 11:26 PM	#3
tenbears User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 370 Thanks: 3 Thanked 26 Times in 15 Posts	Very nice holster more pictures would be appreciated.

06-18-2009, 12:25 PM	#5
Douglas Jr. User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: South America Posts: 948 Thanks: 598 Thanked 584 Times in 254 Posts	Austrian brooms are scarce. Mostly (mine included) are dated 1917 but there are a few reported with 1916 date. All guns issued to the Austrians were "Wartime Commercial" models, with the new safety system (indicated by the superimposed letters NS on the basck of the hammer). Does yours have any unit mark on the grip strap? Some have and it can add a lot of information about the pistol's story. Jan Still's book "Central Powers Pistols" has a very detailed description of these guns as well a list of the reported surviving examples. Douglas