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09-17-2009, 04:36 PM | #1 |
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Luger lanyard info
Could someone provide the necessary info needed to make a reasonable reproduction of a Luger lanyard? Maybe even a photo of both ends?
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09-17-2009, 04:39 PM | #2 |
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Jerry Burney (lugerholsterrepair) makes an exact reproduction.
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09-18-2009, 11:38 AM | #3 |
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Here is a picture of one that Jerry made.
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This is the only image I have on hand of the CMR lanyard. And the opportunity to show off my "Shooter" Arty with original late model TM08. Best Regards!! Joe
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German documents describe the lanyard with a spring-hook and late Third Reich documents show and describe the P38 lanyard wich was also used with the P08. Bavaria got and used a very special lanyard during the great war.
This one with the leather attatching was used with the byf 42 of Portugal. |
09-19-2009, 04:18 PM | #6 |
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Klaus, Many thanks for this information. German documents describe the lanyard with a spring-hook. While this may be so...many top collections in Europe are full of the leather tab type. G. Machtelinckx of Belgium was kind enough to assist me in the late 90's by traveling accross Europe... dropping in on very important and extensive collections on his way to photograph the German Luger lanyards found in those collections. Almost exclusively the many photo's he provided are of the leather tab type.
I do have a spring type in my collection. These are vastly inferior to the leather tab type with the brass swivel. Cheaply made with unblued steel and usually rusted to hell. As an aside..I wrote to Reinhard Kornmayer in 1998 and he was kind enough to write up what he knew about Luger lanyards. He had the opposite of your opinion..that Portugese lanyards were of the spring hook type. He was kind enough to send me an example as a gift for which I well be forever grateful. He also sent me his archive of German Soldiers wearing lanyards. If you have any information of a diffinitave nature that would positively identify the leather tab type lanyard as Portugese I would dearly love to see it. I have researched German Luger Lanyards now for 20 years and have NEVER been able to pin down the Portugese lanyard. All I have ever heard is second hand rumors of the leather tab type coming back into the US with Portugese Lugers and the lerned opinion of Reinhard.. Lastly...If I were to produce the spring hook lanyards for sale... I could not give them away. They would horribly mar the finish on any Luger one was crazy enough to attach them to. Klaus, Viele Dank für diese Informationen. Deutsche Dokumente beschreiben die Kordel mit einem Federhaken. Während dies so sein darf. ..many oberste Sammlungen in Europa sind voll von der Lederlasche. G. Machtelinckx von Belgien war gütig genug, mir in des spät 90's durch Reisen von accross Europa zu helfen... schauend bei sehr wichtigen und umfangreichen Sammlungen auf seinem Weg herein, die deutschen Luger Kordeln zu fotografieren, die in den Sammlungen gefunden werden. Fast ausschließlich hat des vieles Fotos er sind von der Lederlasche versorgt. Ich habe eine Feder in meiner Sammlung. Diese sind erheblich minderwertig zur Lederlasche mit dem Messingdrehgelenk. Billig gemacht mit unblued stählern und gewöhnlich gerostet zu Hölle. Als ein beiseite.. ich an Reinhard Kornmayer in 1998 geschrieben habe, und er war gütig genug, nach oben zu schreiben, was er um Luger Kordeln gekannt hat. Er hat das Gegenteil von Ihrer Meinung gehabt.., dass Portugese Kordeln vom Federhaken waren. Er war gütig genug, mir ein Beispiel zu schicken, als ein Geschenk für das ich gut bin für immer dankbar. Er hat auch mir sein Archiv deutscher Soldaten tragend Kordeln geschickt. Wenn Sie irgendeine Informationen von einer diffinitave Natur haben, die positiv die Lederlaschenkordel identifizieren würde, als Portugese ich lieb es sehen möchte. Ich habe Deutsch Luger Kordeln jetzt für 20 Jahre geforscht und habe NIE die Portugese Kordel festlegen können. Alles, das ich je gehört habe, ist Sekundenzeigergerüchte von der Lederlasche zurückkommend in die USA mit Portugese Lugers und der lerned Meinung von Reinhard. Zuletzt. ..if ich sollte herstellen den Federhakenkordeln zum Verkauf... Ich könnte sie nicht weggeben. Sie würden schrecklich das Ende auf irgendeinem Luger einer war verrückt genug beschädigen, sie zu zu befestigen.
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Jerry,
I believe that the pistols that used the spring clip type of lanyard, simply had an attaching ring on the pistol. I remember seeing an image of a Portuguese luger in one of the US surplus gun sellers ads, showing a lanyard ring in situ. Have to dig up that one The Dutch navy lanyards, as discussed earlier, also have the spring clip design. |
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